| 2 May 2024 |
 Randy Eckenrode | * Actually, maybe it should be put in the release notes for 24.05 and then done after the release on unstable? | 22:16:23 |
| 3 May 2024 |
 Mic92 | Randy Eckenrode: so from my understanding you mainly try to prevent darwin's bootstrap from using curl? This seems like it's more important for nixpkgs-unstable anyway, so maybe it is not super important that we have that in the NixOS release anyway because people on that branch wouldn't do such changes. | 14:11:48 |
| Randy Eckenrode | In reply to @joerg:thalheim.io
Randy Eckenrode: so from my understanding you mainly try to prevent darwin's bootstrap from using curl? This seems like it's more important for nixpkgs-unstable anyway, so maybe it is not super important that we have that in the NixOS release anyway because people on that branch wouldn't do such changes. Yeah, just preventing it so curl updates don’t require a full Darwin rebuild (and because it’s historically a pain point for Darwin). Sticking with unstable makes sense. | 15:25:00 |
| 4 May 2024 |
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| 6 May 2024 |
 Weijia | ZHF: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/309482 | 07:42:02 |
 Vladimír Čunát | The staging-next that's starting now (link) can still contain general "breaking changes", given they were only disallowed a few days ago. But I hope it won't impact ZHF that much. | 07:47:35 |
 pbsds | I see no obvious place to set aside PRs that introduce breaking changes for later.
How do you feel about introducing a status: blocked until branch-off label? | 11:07:48 |
 Alyssa Ross | wouldn't it be better to just have a branch? | 11:29:01 |
| pbsds | Retargeting a bunch of pulls to that branch, and merging that branch into master post 24.05 branch-off strikes me as more work
| 11:44:25 |
 hexa | also CI relies on things getting cached, while that branch would rot for 2-3 weeks 🤔 | 11:44:56 |
| Alyssa Ross | no worse than staging often is | 11:45:10 |
| hexa | yeah, but staging is … not great 🙂 | 11:45:34 |
| Alyssa Ross | the nice thing about it would be that PRs can be completed, rather than staying in a zombie state for weeks | 11:45:36 |
| Alyssa Ross | but don't let me stop you doing a lobal | 11:45:59 |
| Alyssa Ross | either would be better than nothing | 11:46:10 |
| Alyssa Ross | I'd even like branches for future releases tbh, to handle stuff like turning deprecation warnings into hard errors, so you don't have to remember to come back in 6 months | 11:46:31 |
| Alyssa Ross | I missed my opportunity to remove some APIs in 24.05 that I'd planned to | 11:46:44 |
| pbsds | i believe there usually is a board in https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects where todos for the next release can be added. One for 24.11 should pop up once 24.05 is tagged | 11:55:10 |
|  Charles changed their display name from Charles ⚡️ to Charles. | 17:01:07 |
 Arian | I'm wondering if we need a "Release Criticial Modules" list too in future releases: https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Critical-Packages.html
I'd add systemd, dbus and switch-to-configuration to them given the mess I caused with dbus-broker revert :') | 19:49:21 |
| 7 May 2024 |
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| riotbib | knock … I'm back | 12:10:10 |
| riotbib | could someone change the topic to 24.05 "Uakari"? | 12:11:08 |
| riotbib | (this is lennart, I regained access to my old Matrix account) | 12:11:46 |
| Weijia changed the room topic to "24.05 "Uakari" | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Home.html" from "23.11 "Tapir" | https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Home.html". | 12:11:56 |
| 10 May 2024 |
 ma27 | so I just realized that postgresql12 will be EOL on nov 14 which is within the supported range of 24.05. opinions on removing/keeping it? we're past the breaking change restriction of may 1 already.
also am I right with my interpretation of https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/303285 that current staging will be merged into staging-next and that's the second staging cycle for 24.05? asking for a few postgresql updates. | 09:10:05 |
| hexa | we have on staging cycle remaining before branch-off | 09:13:55 |
| hexa | * we have one staging cycle remaining before branch-off | 09:14:00 |
