| 1 May 2024 |
|  NixOS Moderation Botchanged room power levels. | 15:07:22 |
| 2 May 2024 |
 @alejandrosame:matrix.org | In reply to @jacg:matrix.org
Just in case I'm missing something important here, what exactly do you mean by 'rearrange the release notes'? Is there any larger-scale work to be done beyond things like making sure that the individual descriptions make sense and they adhere to a fairly consistent style? In the previous release notes, I had as an editorial goal the rearrangement of sections. lennart (this account will be deactivated by 1st of may 2025) and I used a workflow that was not merged (context: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/270967#issuecomment-2090332676), which turned into me sending a big update that moved pieces of text around, which complicated fixing the last minute release merge conflicts.
So, it's best to try to quickly merge drastic release notes changes ASAP to master. Although, my impression was also that towards the end of of the release cycle, the actual source of truth from the release notes perspective is the frozen branch, which then should be amended to master, not the other way around. At least, until we manage to get more granular control by generating the release notes.
| 12:17:22 |
 Randy Eckenrode | I have a question about breaking changes. Is it breaking if a change does not affect eval or cause rebuilds, but it imposes a new restriction? Darwin dropped curl from the bootstrap, but it is possible for it to sneak back into the bootstrap. I have a change to make it throw, but that would prevent using fetchgit if you happen to be in the Darwin bootstrap. | 14:25:09 |
| Randy Eckenrode | If it is, I can target 24.11 after staging opens back up to breaking changes. | 14:28:31 |
 Weijia | It doesn't sound breaking to me (correct me if I'm wrong). | 14:35:20 |
 raitobezarius | In reply to @reckenrode:matrix.org
I have a question about breaking changes. Is it breaking if a change does not affect eval or cause rebuilds, but it imposes a new restriction? Darwin dropped curl from the bootstrap, but it is possible for it to sneak back into the bootstrap. I have a change to make it throw, but that would prevent using fetchgit if you happen to be in the Darwin bootstrap. can someone depend on that? | 14:36:53 |
| raitobezarius | if so, it's a breaking change | 14:36:59 |
| raitobezarius | if not, it's not | 14:37:00 |
| raitobezarius | if it's a breaking change that's likely to be depended upon 0.5 folks, you can negotiate with RMs to find a compromise | 14:37:16 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Sounds breaking because a package could switch to fetchgit or add curl as a dependency. | 14:38:42 |
| Randy Eckenrode | Which happened with docutils. It’s fixed now, but other packages can do that. | 14:39:43 |
| Randy Eckenrode | I can keep it a best effort exclusion for 24.05 and make it a hard block for 24.11. It’s not critical. More of a QoL improvement for curl updates. | 14:40:56 |
| Randy Eckenrode | * I can keep it a best effort exclusion for 24.05 and make it a hard block for 24.11. It’s not critical. More of a QoL improvement for curl updates, which have to go through staging anyway. | 14:41:16 |
| raitobezarius | Yeah, if it requires active cooperation from the package maintainer, this will be hard | 14:49:08 |
