| 21 May 2025 |
 leona | Last release was different in this regard but didn’t change anything in the release wiki tmk | 06:52:32 |
 emily | huh, I see! okay, sorry :) | 06:59:26 |
| emily | it seems… weird that -beta is the tag for branch-off and branch-off- is the tag for the release? | 06:59:47 |
| emily | (but I understand the wish to avoid direct versions as tags given the pitfalls, the name just confused me) | 07:00:01 |
| emily | (not suggesting any change for this cycle, but maybe 25.05-initial or something could be good, though confusing again with -beta. it's hard to find a word for "final" that doesn't suggest finality / like it should actually be used for deployments 😆) | 07:31:01 |
|  James McCorrie joined the room. | 07:35:40 |
| leona | maybe something like 25.05-branch-off instead of beta, and 25.05-initial-release | 07:38:00 |
| leona | nevertheless i write that one down for release retro | 07:38:21 |
| emily | those sound great to me :) | 07:43:49 |
| emily | though I may slightly prefer -beta for the former: it more strongly implies that the thing isn't "fully 25.05" yet, and it keeps consistency with existing tags (as opposed to branch-off having two meanings in tags, as confusing as the 24.11 one is) | 07:44:48 |
| emily | anyway sorry for the nitpicking! | 07:45:02 |
|  o_________o joined the room. | 08:17:39 |
 Arian | The journald tests should be fixed 🌅 | 08:23:45 |
