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@timdeh:matrix.orgnrdxpWhen ahead and started a board to track blocking issues: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/projects/4515:48:16
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@lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninjalukegb (he/him)The x86_64-darwin runners are still basically broken on Hydra and not really managing to build anything. Is this a blocking issue for 21.11? :p12:13:12
@timdeh:matrix.orgnrdxpwell that's certainly not ideal, but NixOS is a Linux distro so I guess it's not a blocker in the traditional sense15:28:02
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@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
In reply to @lukegb:zxcvbnm.ninja
The x86_64-darwin runners are still basically broken on Hydra and not really managing to build anything. Is this a blocking issue for 21.11? :p
I would say it's outside of scope for a release.
21:03:58
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer although, grahamc (he/him) , this should probably be resolved 21:04:10
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerAlso, it's awkward to say, "The NixOS 21.11 release was delayed because of MacOS"21:04:36
@timdeh:matrix.orgnrdxp

not sure how the macs are setup here, but we have a pretty nice setup at work that allows us to configure our Macs in a psuedo declarative style by running them in qemu on nixos as systemd services on actual mac hardware (for legal reasons).

It allows us to simply restart the service which will destory the existing state, reload a new one from a pristine zfs snapshot of the OSX install, and then run a script that install nix, nix-darwin and then loads our darwin config like a virtual nixos-rebuild. It's almost as nice as using NixOS, but debugging is more painful.

Anyway, maybe such a setup would be beneficial here?

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@0x4a6f:matrix.org[0x4A6F] Might be similar to this setup? 21:59:18
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@timdeh:matrix.orgnrdxp

anyone with detailed knowledge of the Mac setup wanna chime in here?
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/140168#issuecomment-945307419

Perhaps grahamc (he/him)?

14:47:21
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberek I'm also willing to jump in and work on the Mac setup. It seems like we can benefit from spreading the Darwin experience with the infra a bit more, these issues come up often. Right now we're seeing Sending inputs - waiting for the big garbage collector lock... 14:59:18
@tomberek:matrix.orgtomberekIt looks like someone restarted builds 4 hours ago? (or old builds had timed out?)15:00:08
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßI was told somebody will take a look soon-ish15:04:07
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