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9 Oct 2025
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatSure, I meant it as an argument why commonly used stuff should get fixed before the branch-off.16:36:41
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatThough yeah, by glancing at that issue, lots of work that doesn't seem worth the benefits 😢16:38:30
@dandart:matrix.orgdwdhehe there's 19 more I went to mention on the ticket 👻 surely 16:40:57
@dandart:matrix.orgdwd* hehe there's 19 more I went to mention on the ticket 👻 surely this can be detected16:41:12
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatI think some was hacking a script to get all log files and grep them.16:41:44
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat(specifically mentioned around that cmake 4 upgrade)16:42:10
@dandart:matrix.orgdwdaha16:42:15
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunat given that you can even do nix log -f. attribute... 16:43:01
10 Oct 2025
@lennart:0520.chlennart

hi, with previous releases the release artworks got asked for and committed to https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-artwork/

that repo got replaced with https://github.com/NixOS/branding and a blank wiki page https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Artwork

the branding repo has no mention of the previous release artworks https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ANixOS%2Fbranding%20%22Warbler%22&type=code

djacu – who did this change – is not in this channel and I do not want to have contact with them.

I justed wanted to let you know, that this will be come a problem if we want to continue having release artworks.

I did three artworks, for 23.11, 24.05, 24.11.

(to be honest, this nonsense changes and blind activism primarily by such "branding" efforts is driving me further away from the community. this is not a front against you all in this channel, it's just … stupid actions by some (who are not in this channel I guess.)

07:13:24
@lennart:0520.chlennartplease do correct me if I misunderstood something, I hope so I did07:16:07
@leona:leona.isleona I already asked djacu about how release images work with the new branding repo. The only real change is that we would like to have some sort of vector image. How exactly we integrate it there, I don’t know yet, will see on that. But jopejoe1 and I will open a “search for release logo” post on discourse soon :) 07:17:49
@lennart:0520.chlennartOK, could you link me that convo, if it is public?07:19:14
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatThe real work is getting the art. Moving to another place should be easy whenever.07:19:29
@lennart:0520.chlennart

I agree vcunat, as I previously did that work.

unfortunately a living Xantusia is outside of my reach to snap a picture. I'd recommend on not violating copyright laws, as was done previously most time.

07:21:47
@lennart:0520.chlennartI am not looking for trouble, and see all the work that is put into the release. I do feel a shift and grift to the community with such changes that should be discussed elsewhere I guess.07:22:44
@vcunat:matrix.orgvcunatBranding looks very much in scope of the marketing team, in my eyes.07:23:20
@leona:leona.isleonaIt’s currently not, unfortunately. There is not much more then a few other guideline suggestions (no AI, release under open license, adhere to branding guide) and for it to be a discourse thread instead of issue + PRs07:23:25
@leona:leona.isleona * 07:24:02
@lennart:0520.chlennartthats how it's evolving in the last ~12 months yea, by such changes pushed by some.07:24:05
@lennart:0520.chlennartall good. best of luck on that07:24:26
@leona:leona.isleona I can say that Sigmanificientalready did some work on a release logo :) 07:24:48
@leona:leona.isleona And lennart, I originally wanted another animal with X (Xerus), but then someone made me aware, that Ubuntu already used that and I don’t want that ^^ 07:26:11
@lennart:0520.chlennarttypical Canonical 🙄07:26:54
@lennart:0520.chlennarthappy to read the results of the discussion on guidlines, including call for artworks. let's leave it at that? I know there are much more more important tasks for a release :)07:28:17
@leona:leona.isleonabtw there is at least one public domain image of a xantusia: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xantusia_vigilis1.jpg This was actually one of the criteria, as for quite a lot of other X-animals I could find none07:31:36
@leona:leona.isleona * btw there is at least one public domain image of a xantusia: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Xantusia_vigilis1.jpg This was actually one of the criteria, as for quite a lot of other X-animals I couldn't find any 07:33:19
@avocadoom:avocadoom.deavocadoom
In reply to @lennart:0520.ch

hi, with previous releases the release artworks got asked for and committed to https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-artwork/

that repo got replaced with https://github.com/NixOS/branding and a blank wiki page https://wiki.nixos.org/wiki/Artwork

the branding repo has no mention of the previous release artworks https://github.com/search?q=repo%3ANixOS%2Fbranding%20%22Warbler%22&type=code

djacu – who did this change – is not in this channel and I do not want to have contact with them.

I justed wanted to let you know, that this will be come a problem if we want to continue having release artworks.

I did three artworks, for 23.11, 24.05, 24.11.

(to be honest, this nonsense changes and blind activism primarily by such "branding" efforts is driving me further away from the community. this is not a front against you all in this channel, it's just … stupid actions by some (who are not in this channel I guess.)

As @leona:leona.ispointed out, we (marketing team) are fully aware that release logos have to be part of the process. Though we want to streamline them as well. These effort's were already measured in for a while.

I am a bit confused though you call these changes nonsense. I respect your opinion but this is just a larger effort to document and bring together all things that visually represent nix so we can have a more uniform presentation to the outside world and help people find proper documentation when working on visual material.

08:25:40
@lennart:0520.chlennartI call them nonsense since they break the processes, with close to zero transparency on such changes. good that Marketing Team is fully aware, looking forward to the results before 25.11 release date. as proposed previously, lets leave it at that. 08:28:45
@sigmanificient:matrix.orgSigmanificient
In reply to @lennart:0520.ch

I agree vcunat, as I previously did that work.

unfortunately a living Xantusia is outside of my reach to snap a picture. I'd recommend on not violating copyright laws, as was done previously most time.

I personally used that picture, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xantusia#/media/File:Xantusia_vigilis1.jpg) which is public domain!
10:32:41
@lennart:0520.chlennarthej no worries, I did not mean you. I just want transparent processes with clear guidelines and nothing breaking and no trouble like copyright claims. this is a bit exhausting, gonna see what weekend brings, bye10:34:19

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