| 23 May 2025 |
 prince213 | I've proposed a change to the PR | 15:41:34 |
 hexa | I don't think we depend on nixpkgs-darwin-25.11 for the release (notes) | 15:41:45 |
| prince213 | It feels like it should be the g.a. of a release | 15:41:53 |
 leona | We don’t, that’s right. It’s probably mostly for communication whether we want to publicly say “we have a stable release” that is broken at that time on Darwin | 15:42:52 |
| leona | And for that it maybe could be better to wait a day with the public announcement until nixpkgs-25.05-darwin built with the fix. But I cannot really judge right now how many users would be affected | 15:44:00 |
| leona | i'm very happy for feedback on that one. | 15:53:20 |
 Vladimír Čunát | We need to switch officialRelease also for darwin, or not?
https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/nixpkgs-25.05-darwin#tabs-configuration | 16:05:36 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * We should switch officialRelease also for darwin, or not?
https://hydra.nixos.org/jobset/nixpkgs/nixpkgs-25.05-darwin#tabs-configuration | 16:05:45 |
| hexa | the documentation doesn't mention it, but yes we should | 16:20:57 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I think there's are bugs anyway, by looking at the tarball names:
https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/staging-next-24.11-small/nixpkgs.tarball | 16:23:29 |
| Vladimír Čunát | pre is wrong, and for some reason parts keep (dis)appearing. | 16:23:48 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * I think there's are bugs anyway, by looking at the tarball names:
https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/release-24.11-small/nixpkgs.tarball | 16:24:19 |
| leona | that happens when stableBranch=false afaik | 16:24:44 |
| leona | as it is for that job set | 16:24:53 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * I think there are bugs anyway, by looking at the tarball names:
https://hydra.nixos.org/job/nixos/release-24.11-small/nixpkgs.tarball | 16:24:52 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I posted a wrong link first. After edit it's on a jobset that has =true. | 16:25:23 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I don't think the name is important for anything, though. And at a glance it's been that way for years. | 16:27:55 |
| hexa | leona: when do you want the nixos bump to happen? | 16:45:31 |
| hexa | I can offer anything between 15 minutes from now and whenever it is ready | 16:45:48 |
| hexa | channel bump is in progresss | 16:54:54 |
| hexa | * channel bump is in progress | 16:54:55 |
| hexa | afk | 16:54:59 |
 emily | FWIW, I think it is fine to announce the release without Hydra having built the Darwin fix | 16:58:57 |
| emily | my main worry was waiting weeks for it to go through staging | 16:59:07 |
| emily | but letting Hydra start churning through the 1.2k builds and releasing anyway seems perfectly acceptable to me | 16:59:24 |
| emily | (and even waiting for staging-next-25.05 is okay if suboptimal too – my only real priority is the hope that we aren't stuck with the breaking change for the entire 25.05 cycle, so I assume that if we are going to merge it in some form it should be before the announcement) | 16:59:59 |
|  mdaniels5757 joined the room. | 17:00:28 |
| leona | then let's release today. I'd suggest 20:30 CEST. Then i can have food before | 17:01:46 |
| emily | (just so I'm clear on blocking stuff: do you intend to post a decision about the backportability of that change on the PR?) | 17:13:56 |
| hexa | advanced | 17:15:47 |
