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9 May 2022
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunáthttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/17216010:05:28
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßah I should cross-post this to discourse10:05:55
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) joined the room.10:25:45
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heß So Robert Hensing (roberth) grahamc (he/him): I wanted to finish up the discussion about the initial tag for the upcoming release. Graham said there might be tools that rely on the tag being named that way, do you think its enough to announce the upcoming change now and hope everybody relying on this fixes their scripts? I really understand Robert's motivation here and I think it would be a relevant improvement and make this more clear 12:38:38
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
So Robert Hensing (roberth) grahamc (he/him): I wanted to finish up the discussion about the initial tag for the upcoming release. Graham said there might be tools that rely on the tag being named that way, do you think its enough to announce the upcoming change now and hope everybody relying on this fixes their scripts? I really understand Robert's motivation here and I think it would be a relevant improvement and make this more clear
The main thing is git describe
16:13:16
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer
[09:14:21] jon@nixos ~/projects/nixpkgs (release-21.11)
$ git describe
21.11-3617-g1f8e77dfaea
16:14:35
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringer

actually, for hydra this might not be too much of a concern:

  version = fileContents ../.version;
  versionSuffix =
    (if stableBranch then "." else "beta") + "${toString (nixpkgs.revCount - 291486)}.${nixpkgs.shortRev}";

And this gets updated as part of the release process

16:17:25
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßcouldn't we just … not tag at all?16:19:55
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerSo, we used to tag because there was an explicit beta period16:20:40
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerbut I kind of did away with that with "ZHF on master" RFC16:20:57
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerand just treated master during ZHF as the beta16:21:21
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heßah the XX.XX-beta tag?16:22:03
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerYea16:27:08
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerAlso I'm getting married on saturday, and then going on a honeymoon soon after, so I won't be able to participate in this ZHF as much as I have in the past16:42:52
@linus:schreibt.jetztLinux HackermanOh wow congratulations!16:43:04
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátI'd think ZHF is the perfect programme for a honeymoon 😏16:46:31
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringershe would disagree16:47:05
10 May 2022
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12 May 2022
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14 May 2022
@mic92:nixos.devMic92This summer is crazy. I am invited to 5 weddings as well.06:05:29
@mic92:nixos.devMic92I got 5 new fancy machines to run nixpkgs-review. Let's attack some zhf PRs!06:07:41
17 May 2022
@jonringer:matrix.orgjonringerLeaving in 10 hrs for my honeymoon. Wish all the nix-ers a good ZHF, and the RMs a good release :)02:16:24
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátAny opinions on https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/170856 ? Simply revert to older xorg-server, for 22.05 at least?11:34:11
21 May 2022
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßI asked Graham to create the jobsets in advance and it doesn't appear to be an issue. The jobsets will not evaluate anyway because the branches are missing so this doesn't create additional load and gives us flexibility since we can just start evals from the hydra ui20:17:49
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I asked Graham to create the jobsets in advance and it doesn't appear to be an issue. The jobsets will not evaluate anyway because the branches are missing so this doesn't create additional load and gives us flexibility since we can just start evals from the hydra ui
I also have the permissions, BTW. Cloning jobsets and adjusting their parameters is quite easy.
20:18:36
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát
In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I asked Graham to create the jobsets in advance and it doesn't appear to be an issue. The jobsets will not evaluate anyway because the branches are missing so this doesn't create additional load and gives us flexibility since we can just start evals from the hydra ui
* I also have the permissions, BTW (for future reference). Cloning jobsets and adjusting their parameters is quite easy.
20:18:49
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne Heß
In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org
I also have the permissions, BTW (for future reference). Cloning jobsets and adjusting their parameters is quite easy.
The docs just state "the infrastructure team" and the less people we have to wait for the better imo. The docs now state to ask the team 1-2 days before so we are flexible in case multiple people from the infra team are unavailable
20:21:14
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátYou could say ask in https://matrix.to/#/#infra:nixos.org or something.20:23:18
@janne.hess:helsinki-systems.deJanne HeßYeah, I linked that. If you are interested in the WIP chapter (not finished because I haven't actually branched yet): https://github.com/NixOS/release-wiki/pull/4020:23:44

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