| 30 Nov 2025 |
 avocadoom | Redacted or Malformed Event | 18:45:55 |
| avocadoom | * This is the friendly reminder of, even if you have merge access to repo, waiting for the other team to at least get the chance to review :) | 19:30:39 |
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| avocadoom | Sorry if the above comment sounded a bit harsh :D just got a bit more insight and I kind of understand the situation now. :) | 20:01:43 |
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| 1 Dec 2025 |
 lennart | congrats to 25.11, good job 🎉 | 01:30:28 |
| lennart | Sigmanificient: that's a real cute logo :) | 01:35:15 |
 VladimĂr ÄŚunát | https://discourse.nixos.org/t/github-labels-for-upgrade-dealbreaker-regressions/72800 | 12:19:25 |
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| 5 Dec 2025 |
| lennart | hi you all, I'd like to propose to go back to a schedule where NixOS is released in September xx.09 and
March xx.03. I do not know the reasons for that change back then in 2020.
with November xx.11 and and May xx.05 we effectivley remove one 1 week of the 4 weeks a previous NixOS release is supported. I guess for most there is enough stress at the end of the year already.
I am noticing the effects right now at work, where I need to upgrade several machines to 25.11. due to Christmas and Chaos Communication Congress I have to rush that, if do not want to on holidays.
since a big part of the NixOS community is Western civilised and probably at least visiting family at Christmas even if not celebrating, I think we can measure this in.
where do you think can I propose this more prominently? Discourse? I know this would be a big change…
| 02:59:52 |
| lennart | * hi you all, I'd like to propose to go back to a schedule where NixOS is released in September xx.09 and March xx.03. I do not know the reasons for that change back then in 2020.
with November xx.11 and and May xx.05 we effectivley remove one 1 week of the 4 weeks a previous NixOS release is supported. I guess for most there is enough stress at the end of the year already.
I am noticing the effects right now at work, where I need to upgrade several machines to 25.11. due to Christmas and Chaos Communication Congress I have to rush that, if do not want to on holidays.
since a big part of the NixOS community is Western civilised and probably at least visiting family at Christmas even if not celebrating, I think we can measure this in.
where do you think can I propose this more prominently? Discourse? I know this would be a big change…
| 03:00:01 |
| lennart | * hi you all, I'd like to propose to go back to a schedule where NixOS is released in September xx.09 and March xx.03. I do not know the reasons for that change back then in 2020.
with November xx.11 and and May xx.05 we effectivley remove one 1 week of the 4 weeks a previous NixOS release is supported. I guess for most there is enough stress at the end of the year already.
I am noticing the effects right now at work, where I need to upgrade several machines to 25.11. due to Christmas and Chaos Communication Congress I have to rush that, if do not want to work on holidays.
since a big part of the NixOS community is Western civilised and probably at least visiting family at Christmas even if not celebrating, I think we can measure this in.
where do you think can I propose this more prominently? Discourse? I know this would be a big change…
| 03:01:31 |
| lennart | OK I guess this is RFC worthy? I could start one. https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/?tab=readme-ov-file#when-this-process-is-followed | 03:09:42 |
| lennart | I'm going to email the nixpkgs core team about that later today. :) | 05:31:17 |
 ma27 | fwiw the original motivation is documented here: https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/blob/master/rfcs/0080-nixos-release-schedule.md#motivation
(I didn't check if it still applies, but figured it might help with your considerations) | 06:06:00 |
| lennart | does help, thanks ma27. since NixOS is mainly used on servers, I'd argue WMs are negligible… lets see. | 06:56:19 |
| lennart |
The current March and September release months may be the worst months for GNOME and Plasma
https://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/blob/master/rfcs/0080-nixos-release-schedule.md?plain=1#L32
KDE Plasma releases roughly three major feature releases a year
https://endoflife.date/kde-plasma
yea, well…
| 06:57:42 |
| VladimĂr ÄŚunát | If you need extra one week, it would seem way simpler to just promise one extra week or two. | 07:00:02 |
| lennart | uuuh nice idea | 07:00:11 |
| lennart | * uuuh nice idea, didn't think of that | 07:00:18 |
| VladimĂr ÄŚunát | But I wouldn't do such changes lightly anyway. | 07:01:42 |
 dotlambda | You mean releasing earlier in the month? | 07:05:33 |
| VladimĂr ÄŚunát | That might also be possible, but I meant moving the end of support, not the beginning. | 07:06:47 |
| VladimĂr ÄŚunát |
I didn't check if it still applies, but figured it might help with your considerations
This timing will hold generally, as both Fedora and Ubuntu are doing 04 + 10.
| 07:07:24 |
 leona | I’m not here to represent them, but i can say that e.g. my workplace already struggles with 4 weeks upgrade time (but also partly for home-made reasons). Reducing it further doesn’t help | 07:08:38 |
| dotlambda | Releasing in early November would also give people more time to upgrade by the end of December | 07:09:42 |
| VladimĂr ÄŚunát | We're surely all talking about increasing the overlap, not reducing. | 07:10:04 |
| leona | Ah, wasn’t sure about that, but then I agree | 07:10:49 |
