| 5 Dec 2025 |
 emily | I'm not sure we have reason to believe this - NixOS on the desktop seems very/increasingly popular and we already tend to get GNOME/Plasma updates right in the very last stage of the release, would be rough to pull it back | 10:18:31 |
 lennart | yea, I agree that shifting to different months is not all too good. the solution suggested by vcunat is better (adding a few more weeks of support before EOL). | 10:19:38 |
| emily | fwiw the period where we support two stable releases simultaneously already feels pretty painful in terms of handling backports and balancing Hydra builds to me, but I guess a week wouldn't change that much (OTOH if it's because of holidays, many people won't be working on those things for that week anyway) | 10:19:43 |
| emily | (only a personal opinion, not speaking for any team) | 10:19:54 |
| lennart | all good, thanks for your input! | 10:20:04 |
| lennart | I have no rush about this, gonna write the discourse post, maybe do an RFC. and if it's better not to do that, fine. | 10:20:25 |
| lennart | * I have no rush about this, gonna write the discourse post, maybe do an RFC. and if it's better not to do that, fine. :) | 10:20:34 |
| emily | it may be worth considering switching during the final beta phase? | 10:20:46 |
| emily | although I run unstable so I would say that :) | 10:20:56 |
 vcunat | Well, you can start geting ready somewhere during the freezing for sure. | 10:21:36 |
| lennart | what do you mean by that? | 10:21:53 |
| lennart | aaaah got it | 10:21:59 |
| lennart | yea… I am one (1) person for several systems… | 10:22:14 |
| emily | you can roll out the new version just before release, or at least get ready and test it in advance | 10:22:25 |
| lennart | employed by an NGO hussler life | 10:22:26 |
| emily | last minute fixes right before release do happen, but they're usually not super critical things | 10:22:42 |
| lennart | uhm, … gonna think about that. | 10:22:46 |
| emily | you can just pretend the new release comes out a couple weeks earlier than it does, since it branches off like a month prior | 10:23:10 |
 Alyssa Ross | even if you don't upgrade before release, you can at least have all the pre-upgrade work done by then | 10:23:23 |
| emily | testing before the final release also helps surface issues to make our release go smoother :) | 10:23:54 |
| lennart | that should be a solution to my problem, yes. I'll test with 26.05! | 10:24:10 |
| emily | (otherwise they will often only be found after release) | 10:24:10 |
| lennart | yea sure, but like … I'm working full time, and still cannot keep up right now. we are a smallish NGO, while I'm trying my best with my tasks :) | 10:24:52 |
| lennart | lets not discuss that with this 300+ members channel. thanks a lot for all your input! :) gonna consider in the following days if/how I post in discourse. | 10:25:41 |
| emily | (I wasn't trying to imply you should do anything that would be more work for you) | 10:26:52 |
| lennart | all good, that's not what I understood by your words. just wanted to clarify | 10:27:24 |
| emily | (just suggesting shifting back starting the migration to a new release by a week - since it should be basically the same but with more time to do everything. I'd expect that usually any major issues you run into this way would be present in the final release anyway :) ) | 10:28:02 |
| lennart | yea sounds like a good solution to my specific problem :) just thought it should be that way more people are affected. but then again, there also is Ramadan, Diwali, Chinese New Year – not just Christmas to consider | 10:29:53 |
| lennart | * yea sounds like a good solution to my specific problem :) just thought it should be ,that way more people are affected. but then again, there also is Ramadan, Diwali, Chinese New Year – not just Christmas to consider | 10:30:06 |
| lennart | * yea sounds like a good solution to my specific problem :) just thought it should be, that way more people are affected. but then again, there also is Ramadan, Diwali, Chinese New Year – not just Christmas to consider | 10:30:10 |
