| 24 Apr 2025 |
 emily | ah, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/401428 has a patch. | 12:43:50 |
| 25 Apr 2025 |
 Tristan Ross | leona: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/397932 is technically a breaking change but I'd like to get it into 25.05 since it means next system update I do, I could try Steam on Apple Silicon without doing it so hacky. Reason why I think it's fine, it's just a rename and it bumps to a newer version that can actually work. | 02:25:53 |
 leona | In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
leona: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/397932 is technically a breaking change but I'd like to get it into 25.05 since it means next system update I do, I could try Steam on Apple Silicon without doing it so hacky. Reason why I think it's fine, it's just a rename and it bumps to a newer version that can actually work. Okay for me | 08:28:01 |
| 29 Apr 2025 |
 Arian | For some reason the unstable channel was published as beta instead of pre for a while https://releases.nixos.org/?prefix=nixos/unstable/
Apprently from . Was this some bug/mishap in the release process?
from 2024-11-20 until 2025-3-23
It’s breaking some scripts I have locally :D
My understanding is that the unstable channel should always be pre-release. Only the beta branch for a stable release should be published as beta. Any idea what happened here?
| 09:43:15 |
| leona | This was a manual mistake in the release process. There is some conversation about this a month ago in this channel | 09:44:03 |
| leona | i.e. the change to beta was committed to master and release-24.11 instead of only to release-24.11 | 09:45:03 |
| Arian | Cool. makes sense | 09:46:07 |
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| leona | Does anyone have an opinion on whether to start tomorrow with ZHF before the last breaking changes from staging-next are merged or wait for that until staging-next is merged? It feels hard to decide unfortunately :/ | 16:27:07 |
| leona | I don't think it really makes sense to start ZHF before it's really known what's "really" broken. But we might to have some more days | 16:29:00 |
 vcunat | They might start fixing failures on staging-next 😆 | 16:47:21 |
| 30 Apr 2025 |
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| leona | I'll publish a - hopefully good - announcement explaining the situation we're in, and start the ZHF from there. Otherwise time is too limited.. | 20:45:14 |
 Morgan (@numinit) | One of the bits of retrospective from 24.11 said that we should start scaling up our builders pretty soon:
https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-24-11-retrospective/57085 | 20:54:40 |
| leona | To my knowledge thats not really possible / helpful because of the limitations of the hydra scheduler | 20:55:32 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | I have no horse in this race, but was just the notetaker and that reminded me 😀 | 20:55:41 |
| leona | (infra, correct me if i'm wrong) | 20:55:46 |
 Grimmauld (any/all) | current bottleneck is the staging-next of this cycle, which needs K's haskell patches and some darwin love? | 20:57:53 |
| leona | by the default procedure ZHF would start after this cycle's staging-next is merged. I'm not sure what it really needs, but at least it needs 2-3 more days time, if not more. ZHF can also start before, but then we get breaking changes in the ZHF after it started, so not ideal but acceptable | 21:00:01 |
 hexa | no scaling possible right now | 21:01:04 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @leona:leona.is
I'll publish a - hopefully good - announcement explaining the situation we're in, and start the ZHF from there. Otherwise time is too limited.. Cool, I'll try to help out with my 128 core system. Will be looking for the ZHF fixes label. | 21:34:50 |
| 1 May 2025 |
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| Morgan (@numinit) | Yeah I'll toss stuff at it for x86_64 on an EPYC, down to help stabilize | 06:02:25 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | Have both an EPYC 2 and EPYC 4 to toss at ZHF PRs this time :D | 06:03:37 |
| hexa | Darwin capacity is what hydra is missing | 12:56:48 |
| hexa | We have sufficient Linux capability | 12:57:07 |
| leona | ZHF started: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/403336 | 15:11:58 |
| leona | let's actually mention this in #dev:nixos.org too, then i got almost every place i think :D | 15:12:34 |
 raf | I've created https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/403348 (in response to the discourse post)
This gets the obvious typos out of the way, but I'll revise the documentation in full again to clarify word where/if necessary. Also taking a look at the nixpkgs document now. | 16:16:50 |
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