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22 Apr 2025
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilythanks for taking care of the release22:14:22
24 Apr 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI want to drop the amazonImage job from the release blockers as I'm about to move the build to github actions . Do I need to do that before today? Or is that fine to do whilst we're in the release process?10:10:31
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian* I want to drop the amazonImage job from the release blockers in hydra as I'm about to move the build to github actions . Do I need to do that before today? Or is that fine to do whilst we're in the release process?10:13:12
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Sounds fine to me?10:51:29
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@emilazy:matrix.orgemilydoes the actual job get removed at some point?10:56:28
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyHydra will build it regardless of whether it's a blocker so is the intent to drop it for 25.05 or just let it break?10:56:53
@joerg:thalheim.ioMic92Would be good if we could actually drop it.11:24:54
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátYes, big images are relatively expensive for the infra.11:26:13
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian Yeh I will remove the job 11:28:29
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian I am replacing it with an amazonConfig job that builds the NixOS config inside the image; but not the image itself 11:28:46
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilydo you expect anyone outside the project is consuming the image job?11:29:35
@emilazy:matrix.orgemily Nix 2.28 regression: https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/13050, cc leona, I assume a 2.28.x release is imminent 12:43:05
@emilazy:matrix.orgemilyah, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/401428 has a patch.12:43:50
25 Apr 2025
@rosscomputerguy:matrix.orgTristan Ross leona: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/397932 is technically a breaking change but I'd like to get it into 25.05 since it means next system update I do, I could try Steam on Apple Silicon without doing it so hacky. Reason why I think it's fine, it's just a rename and it bumps to a newer version that can actually work. 02:25:53
@leona:leona.isleona
In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
leona: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/397932 is technically a breaking change but I'd like to get it into 25.05 since it means next system update I do, I could try Steam on Apple Silicon without doing it so hacky. Reason why I think it's fine, it's just a rename and it bumps to a newer version that can actually work.
Okay for me
08:28:01
29 Apr 2025
@arianvp:matrix.orgArian

For some reason the unstable channel was published as beta instead of pre for a while https://releases.nixos.org/?prefix=nixos/unstable/

Apprently from . Was this some bug/mishap in the release process?
from 2024-11-20 until 2025-3-23

It’s breaking some scripts I have locally :D

My understanding is that the unstable channel should always be pre-release. Only the beta branch for a stable release should be published as beta. Any idea what happened here?

09:43:15
@leona:leona.isleonaThis was a manual mistake in the release process. There is some conversation about this a month ago in this channel09:44:03
@leona:leona.isleona i.e. the change to beta was committed to master and release-24.11 instead of only to release-24.11 09:45:03
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianCool. makes sense09:46:07
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@leona:leona.isleonaDoes anyone have an opinion on whether to start tomorrow with ZHF before the last breaking changes from staging-next are merged or wait for that until staging-next is merged? It feels hard to decide unfortunately :/16:27:07
@leona:leona.isleona I don't think it really makes sense to start ZHF before it's really known what's "really" broken. But we might to have some more days 16:29:00
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír Čunát They might start fixing failures on staging-next 😆 16:47:21
30 Apr 2025
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@leona:leona.isleonaI'll publish a - hopefully good - announcement explaining the situation we're in, and start the ZHF from there. Otherwise time is too limited..20:45:14
@numinit:matrix.orgMorgan (@numinit)

One of the bits of retrospective from 24.11 said that we should start scaling up our builders pretty soon:

https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-24-11-retrospective/57085

20:54:40
@leona:leona.isleonaTo my knowledge thats not really possible / helpful because of the limitations of the hydra scheduler20:55:32
@numinit:matrix.orgMorgan (@numinit)I have no horse in this race, but was just the notetaker and that reminded me 😀20:55:41
@leona:leona.isleona(infra, correct me if i'm wrong) 20:55:46

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