| 26 Oct 2024 |
 hexa | * e.g. I'm currently in UTC+2, so I have 14 hours into the next day to ship breaking changes right into master, which is easy to calculate | 02:45:51 |
 emily | NixCon 2025 United States Minor Outlying Islands | 02:51:12 |
| hexa | sign me up | 02:51:21 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
NixCon 2025 United States Minor Outlying Islands ~~NixCon Japan~~ | 03:19:18 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
NixCon 2025 United States Minor Outlying Islands * NixCon Japan | 03:19:33 |
 infinisil | In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
NixCon Japan 肉すこんを楽しみな〜！ | 03:25:26 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
肉すこんを楽しみな〜！ どいゆうことですか | 03:34:20 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
肉すこんを楽しみな〜！ * どいゆうことですか? | 03:34:24 |
| Tristan Ross | 肉? w | 03:34:40 |
| infinisil | @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org Spell it out :P
| 03:44:45 |
| infinisil | 肉す | 03:45:19 |
| Tristan Ross | Oh, I realize now | 03:46:04 |
| Tristan Ross | Doesn't quite work as I was expecting. | 03:46:27 |
| emily | are you going to put CJK characters in the 25.05 codename to break .NET even more? | 15:03:24 |
| emily | btw, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/346059 seems a bit stalled out | 15:07:53 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
are you going to put CJK characters in the 25.05 codename to break .NET even more? Is there something that would work with W that is CJK? | 17:39:00 |
 leona | I'm currently reading https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/349057, which unfortunately contains a breaking change by removing a version of graylog. But this version is EOL since >5 months. I think it makes sense to remove it, but am not sure | 18:32:45 |
| emily | AIUI security trumps the freeze | 18:38:02 |
| emily | does it have a history of security updates / CVEs? | 18:38:07 |
| emily | https://endoflife.date/graylog "Graylog’s release, support and EOL policy is not clearly defined." oh good | 18:39:00 |
| leona | it's SSPL and I don't know it very much, just stumbled over the PR. AFAIK it had quite some CVEs | 18:40:02 |
| leona | not any in newer versions that aren't fixed in 5.1 tho yet | 18:41:07 |
| emily | I think it's sensible to not ship EOL stuff for the new release. the change of default is a little painful: I would be tempted to throw on old stateVersions explaining the situation rather than potentially silently breaking things. | 18:41:46 |
| emily | that's how I handled it in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/345625 | 18:42:03 |
| leona | same | 18:42:07 |
| emily | (to be clear though, I have no authority over the release process, just my personal take.) | 18:42:41 |
| emily | (IMO "removing a dead package that we anticipate will cause problems over the course of the release cycle" is one of the more sensible late breaking changes) | 18:43:14 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I think it's sensible to not ship EOL stuff for the new release. the change of default is a little painful: I would be tempted to throw on old stateVersions explaining the situation rather than potentially silently breaking things. Agreed | 18:43:59 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
(IMO "removing a dead package that we anticipate will cause problems over the course of the release cycle" is one of the more sensible late breaking changes) Yeah, it's good to get those in | 18:45:15 |
| Tristan Ross | The freeze is mainly to prevent any packages from breaking that could hurt the release but a security issue is imo more harmful | 18:45:49 |
