| 26 Oct 2024 |
 hexa | e.g. I'm currently in UTC+2, so I have 14 hours into the next day time, which is easy to calculat3e | 02:45:32 |
| hexa | * e.g. I'm currently in UTC+2, so I have 14 hours into the next day time, which is easy to calculate | 02:45:34 |
| hexa | * e.g. I'm currently in UTC+2, so I have 14 hours into the next day to ship breaking changes right into master, which is easy to calculate | 02:45:51 |
 emily | NixCon 2025 United States Minor Outlying Islands | 02:51:12 |
| hexa | sign me up | 02:51:21 |
 Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
NixCon 2025 United States Minor Outlying Islands ~~NixCon Japan~~ | 03:19:18 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
NixCon 2025 United States Minor Outlying Islands * NixCon Japan | 03:19:33 |
 infinisil | In reply to @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org
NixCon Japan 肉すこんを楽しみな〜！ | 03:25:26 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
肉すこんを楽しみな〜！ どいゆうことですか | 03:34:20 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
肉すこんを楽しみな〜！ * どいゆうことですか? | 03:34:24 |
| Tristan Ross | 肉? w | 03:34:40 |
| infinisil | @rosscomputerguy:matrix.org Spell it out :P
| 03:44:45 |
| infinisil | 肉す | 03:45:19 |
| Tristan Ross | Oh, I realize now | 03:46:04 |
| Tristan Ross | Doesn't quite work as I was expecting. | 03:46:27 |
| emily | are you going to put CJK characters in the 25.05 codename to break .NET even more? | 15:03:24 |
| emily | btw, https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/346059 seems a bit stalled out | 15:07:53 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
are you going to put CJK characters in the 25.05 codename to break .NET even more? Is there something that would work with W that is CJK? | 17:39:00 |
 leona | I'm currently reading https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/349057, which unfortunately contains a breaking change by removing a version of graylog. But this version is EOL since >5 months. I think it makes sense to remove it, but am not sure | 18:32:45 |
| emily | AIUI security trumps the freeze | 18:38:02 |
| emily | does it have a history of security updates / CVEs? | 18:38:07 |
| emily | https://endoflife.date/graylog "Graylog’s release, support and EOL policy is not clearly defined." oh good | 18:39:00 |
| leona | it's SSPL and I don't know it very much, just stumbled over the PR. AFAIK it had quite some CVEs | 18:40:02 |
| leona | not any in newer versions that aren't fixed in 5.1 tho yet | 18:41:07 |
| emily | I think it's sensible to not ship EOL stuff for the new release. the change of default is a little painful: I would be tempted to throw on old stateVersions explaining the situation rather than potentially silently breaking things. | 18:41:46 |
| emily | that's how I handled it in https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/345625 | 18:42:03 |
| leona | same | 18:42:07 |
| emily | (to be clear though, I have no authority over the release process, just my personal take.) | 18:42:41 |
| emily | (IMO "removing a dead package that we anticipate will cause problems over the course of the release cycle" is one of the more sensible late breaking changes) | 18:43:14 |
| Tristan Ross | In reply to @emilazy:matrix.org
I think it's sensible to not ship EOL stuff for the new release. the change of default is a little painful: I would be tempted to throw on old stateVersions explaining the situation rather than potentially silently breaking things. Agreed | 18:43:59 |
