| 26 Nov 2023 |
 @alejandrosame:matrix.org | That change is orthogonal to actual editing of the text, which @lennart has already done a bunch and won't be lost regardles of the outline change. | 21:01:01 |
| @alejandrosame:matrix.org | * That change is orthogonal to actual editing of the text, which @lennart:0520.ch has already done a bunch and won't be lost regardles of the outline change. | 21:01:31 |
| @alejandrosame:matrix.org | In reply to @alejandrosame:matrix.org
Hello all, the release is approaching and lennart and me are working on the release notes. I filed an issue describing the outline change we plan to apply so you can more easily provide feedback if you feel to strongly against the changes before we put too much effort into it: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/270257. infinisil: raitobezarius figsoda , just in case, I also pinged you on the issue | 21:02:23 |
 infinisil | alejandrosame: Thanks! Left a comment in the issue | 21:20:52 |
| 28 Nov 2023 |
 hexa | https://www.redhat.com/de/blog/rhel-10-plans-wayland-and-xorg-server | 03:56:53 |
| hexa | NixOS when? | 03:57:03 |
 lennart | what would be the timeframe for such a change? | 03:58:12 |
| lennart | losing myself with the release notes editing sometimes, and finding myself here for example :D https://oracle-base.com/blog/2015/01/02/a-sql-or-an-sql/ | 04:10:35 |
 raitobezarius | In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
https://www.redhat.com/de/blog/rhel-10-plans-wayland-and-xorg-server I'd still wait | 06:46:20 |
| raitobezarius | Wayland is not a full replacement for some usecases | 06:46:29 |
| raitobezarius | But we can probably tuck Xorg to become the minority of our usecases | 06:46:43 |
| raitobezarius | we should probably prepare a LWN short post for the release figsoda FYI | 07:06:23 |
| raitobezarius | I can take care of this if you want | 07:06:27 |
| raitobezarius | someday we will have our guest article if I can find a good writer | 07:06:40 |
 adamcstephens | Red Hat’s timelines allow Wayland to not be perfect for release adoption. The post even says you should stay on EL9 if you need Xorg | 12:56:18 |
| adamcstephens | They have probably until the release of EL11 in 5-6 years to fill the gaps | 12:59:22 |
| hexa | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
I'd still wait they probably only support GNOME 🙂 | 13:51:38 |
| hexa | it is where they invest developer resources after all | 13:51:48 |
| hexa | so killing xorg is easier when you don't care about the diversity of window/deskopmanagers | 13:52:09 |
 vcunat | I suspect it's mainly about them not wanting to officially support X, i.e. solve people's issues with it. | 13:53:33 |
| vcunat | By which I mean that we have lots of stuff in nixpkgs that isn't really supported by anyone, but it's still there and it often works. | 13:54:54 |
 figsoda | In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
I can take care of this if you want that would be awesome, thanks! | 14:36:36 |
| lennart | hi infinisil, we would like to drop the trunk-ng package announcement from the Release Notes. such announcements were not done before, but it's added to the New Services section for now. alejandrosame remembered that you kinda wanted it in the Notes though. there were like 16k of new packages added to NixOS 23.05. we would be highlighting such numbers in the announcement, but not individual packages in the Release Notes. OK? | 15:23:29 |
| infinisil | lennart: Sounds good to me! | 15:27:19 |
| infinisil | It would be great to have an overview of new packages in the future, but that would take some time to create | 15:27:48 |
| lennart | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
It would be great to have an overview of new packages in the future, but that would take some time to create Ah missed that, yea we would want that too for the future! | 15:28:43 |
| lennart | We could ask the search time for such a feature maybe? Meaning search.nixos.org | 15:30:28 |
| lennart | * We could ask the search team for such a feature maybe? Meaning search.nixos.org | 15:30:37 |
| hexa | 16000 new packages between 23.05 and 23.11? | 17:48:27 |
| hexa | I have a hard time believing that number | 17:48:32 |
