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20 Nov 2023
figsoda	In reply to @vcunat:matrix.org The timezone link shows a bit confusing information that it's 8 PM in CEST. (It's 8 CET. CEST would be 9 but that zone isn't used now.) oops, I removed the link for now, do you have a suggestion on an alternative?	15:20:37
Vladimír Čunát	No, I don't know.	15:23:27
infinisil	Over the past months I've worked on `lib.fileset` a lot. It comes with reference docs, and I'm now als in the process of writing a tutorial. Furthermore, I might also be able to write a blog post on the Tweag website about it. And all of this work is graciously sponsored by Antithesis! My question: I'd like to add a release note for this towards the top of the highlights section, includes links to all of the above (reference docs, tutorial, Tweag blog and a shout-out to Antithesis). Do the release managers think this is okay or do you have any concerns?	15:24:59
infinisil	* Over the past months I've worked on `lib.fileset` a lot. It comes with reference docs, and I'm now als in the process of writing a tutorial. Furthermore, I might also be able to write a blog post on the Tweag website about it. And all of this work is graciously sponsored by Antithesis! My question: I'd like to add a release note for this towards the top of the highlights section, including links to all of the above (reference docs, tutorial, Tweag blog and a shout-out to Antithesis). Do the release managers think this is okay or do you have any concerns?	15:25:24
figsoda	In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org Over the past months I've worked on `lib.fileset` a lot. It comes with reference docs, and I'm now als in the process of writing a tutorial. Furthermore, I might also be able to write a blog post on the Tweag website about it. And all of this work is graciously sponsored by Antithesis! My question: I'd like to add a release note for this towards the top of the highlights section, including links to all of the above (reference docs, tutorial, Tweag blog and a shout-out to Antithesis). Do the release managers think this is okay or do you have any concerns? Sounds fine with me, though I would leave the final say to the release editors, maybe open a PR and request a review from them when you're ready	15:37:49
raitobezarius	In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org Over the past months I've worked on `lib.fileset` a lot. It comes with reference docs, and I'm now als in the process of writing a tutorial. Furthermore, I might also be able to write a blog post on the Tweag website about it. And all of this work is graciously sponsored by Antithesis! My question: I'd like to add a release note for this towards the top of the highlights section, including links to all of the above (reference docs, tutorial, Tweag blog and a shout-out to Antithesis). Do the release managers think this is okay or do you have any concerns? I am not comfortable with a shout-out to Antithesis in the release notes	15:40:20
raitobezarius	And I'm not sure it's highlight worthy, it's Nixpkgs API, it's not totally relevant to NixOS IMHO, alas, we don't have good story for new Nixpkgs API, etc.	15:41:04
raitobezarius	But technically the place for "Nixpkgs notable changes" is its own section (we have internal changes and etc.)	15:41:17
raitobezarius	For example, when I wrote the `make-disk-image` stuff and improved it: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/master/nixos/doc/manual/release-notes/rl-2305.section.md	15:42:10
raitobezarius	I just put it in some random place	15:42:13
raitobezarius	I don't think the audience who is interested in `lib.fileset` will efficiently discover it via this way	15:42:26
raitobezarius	But I recognize there's a problem into how to highlight such changes	15:42:45
raitobezarius	I'd definitely highlight it in the Nix ecosystem newsletter for example	15:43:05
infinisil	In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org But technically the place for "Nixpkgs notable changes" is its own section (we have internal changes and etc.) There's no non-internal Nixpkgs highlights though	15:43:12
raitobezarius	In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org There's no non-internal Nixpkgs highlights though Correct, we never had the need for it	15:43:22
raitobezarius	Because Nixpkgs API is an undefined object	15:43:33
infinisil	I like to call the API implicit :)	15:44:03
infinisil	raitobezarius: What if I write a release notes section explicitly for `lib` changes?	15:44:19
raitobezarius	an explicitly undefined object, implicily defined, yes	15:44:30
raitobezarius	In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org raitobezarius: What if I write a release notes section explicitly for `lib` changes? That works fine for me	15:44:37
raitobezarius	(but still not comfortable with a shout-out to company, I prefer to leave this in the introducing PR/eventual blog post and not put this information in the release notes)	15:45:00
infinisil	(Ideally we'd have separate sections for `pkgs`, `lib` and `nixos`)	15:45:21
infinisil	In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org (but still not comfortable with a shout-out to company, I prefer to leave this in the introducing PR/eventual blog post and not put this information in the release notes) Does a link to the blog post sound good though?	15:45:44
raitobezarius	Yep, that's fine	15:45:49
infinisil	Awesome thanks!	15:46:16
infinisil	Even if not in the release notes, I will give Antithesis all the shout-outs I can give. They deserve it, they enable me work on upstream Nix improvements all the time <3	15:51:45
raitobezarius	That's completely fair, I just don't want to create difficult to handle precedents for this part of the documentation	16:05:58
raitobezarius	That does not say anything about Antithesis itself of course	16:06:10
infinisil	raitobezarius: Yeah understandable :)	16:09:11
infinisil	Though I think if there's any place for shout-outs, it should be the release notes. Maybe we could consider having a section for company shout-outs in the future.	16:10:50

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