| 30 Oct 2023 |
 raitobezarius | We use it as our way to bootstrap nixpkgs, etc. | 14:33:37 |
| raitobezarius | Clang / LLVM is not on the bootstrap path because noone worked yet on "LLVM-only Nixpkgs" | 14:33:57 |
| raitobezarius | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/264369 | 14:38:30 |
|  Anthony Rsl joined the room. | 17:04:17 |
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| 31 Oct 2023 |
 figsoda | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/258640#issuecomment-1786235673 | 00:09:44 |
| 1 Nov 2023 |
|  moots joined the room. | 08:49:54 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Dropping unused LLVMs isn't considered a breaking change, right? Or you give yourself an exception. | 15:49:45 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * Dropping (most likely) unused LLVMs isn't considered a breaking change, right? Or you give yourself an exception. | 15:50:00 |
 hexa | there is no harm in waiting 20 days for it | 15:52:45 |
| raitobezarius | I'd say that most of the dropping are unproblematic except for Kibana | 15:53:12 |
| hexa | the important point is that it happens eventually | 15:53:19 |
| raitobezarius | They were long due, maintainers were pinged | 15:53:20 |
| hexa | yeah, the ELK stack is sorely undermaintained | 15:53:30 |
| raitobezarius | I would kill it before 23.11 to be honest | 15:53:38 |
| raitobezarius | At least, the Kibana side | 15:53:41 |
| raitobezarius | Or I would bump Kibana to support Node.js 18 but it's like | 15:53:55 |
| raitobezarius | maintaining people living a dream? | 15:54:00 |
| raitobezarius | I don't know | 15:54:03 |
| hexa | I have no strong feelings about llvm5/6, but removing is strictly in the breaking territory 😛 | 15:54:12 |
| raitobezarius | I am terrified at people believing that ELK stack of nixpkgs is good | 15:54:19 |
| hexa | it's fine not to have an ELK stack | 15:54:33 |
| hexa | maybe that will make people care about maintainership again some time soon | 15:54:41 |
| * raitobezarius nods | 15:54:52 |
| raitobezarius | So I don't really care neither about LLVM5/6 | 15:54:57 |
| hexa | also we have opensearch2 I think | 15:55:00 |
| raitobezarius | The only two drops I really think we ought to do before 23.11 branchoff are | 15:55:14 |
| raitobezarius | Ruby 3.0 & Node.js | 15:55:18 |
| raitobezarius | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/264361 | 15:55:19 |
| hexa | sgtm | 15:55:25 |
