| 20 May 2023 |
 Vladimír Čunát | This way of blacklisting doesn't work transitively, i.e. they can still get pulled by another package to get built on Hydra. That might be a practical issue. | 14:42:51 |
 raitobezarius | Aaah | 14:44:01 |
| raitobezarius | Can you comment on this Vladimír Čunát ? | 14:44:07 |
| raitobezarius | (on the 2nd PR) | 14:44:10 |
| raitobezarius | The only way to fix this is to have the allowInsecurePredicate block them I imagine | 14:44:34 |
| raitobezarius | which is a shame because it means that they have to be marked in release.nix | 14:44:44 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Probably. Other per-package marks don't seem suitable. Or drop the packages for good. | 14:46:38 |
| raitobezarius | I think we expanded the drop package budget for now | 14:47:16 |
| raitobezarius | This is a thing for 23.11 now | 14:47:26 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Or we might change hydraPlatforms == [] case to act transitively. | 14:47:34 |
| raitobezarius | How easy it is given the time constraints? | 14:47:43 |
| Vladimír Čunát | A couple simple lines in the check-meta.nix I think. | 14:48:16 |
 @julienmalka:matrix.org | Can we not add some kind of flags to the blacklisted packages that will get read by allowInsecurePredicate ? | 14:48:20 |
| raitobezarius | what do you suggest as a flag name? | 14:48:41 |
| @julienmalka:matrix.org | The hydraPlatforms == [] semantics are not super clear | 14:48:52 |
| raitobezarius | dangerousEnough = true; :>? | 14:48:55 |
| 21 May 2023 |
|  @soul-driver:talos.chat joined the room. | 13:30:48 |
| @soul-driver:talos.chat | is there something very good in 23.05 to wait for? Like flake stabilization, alternative daemon\service manager or something like that | 13:32:44 |
 lennart | yes, I'd wait | 13:33:33 |
 hexa | as opposed to doing what? | 13:34:37 |
| @julienmalka:matrix.org | forking nixpkgs and branching 23.05 themselves | 13:35:14 |
| @julienmalka:matrix.org | soul-driver: here are the current release notes for 23.05 : https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/doc/manual/release-notes/rl-2305.section.md | 13:36:39 |
| raitobezarius | In reply to @soul-driver:talos.chat
is there something very good in 23.05 to wait for? Like flake stabilization, alternative daemon\service manager or something like that no you should wait at least 28.05 | 13:51:24 |
| raitobezarius | Flake stabilization is not a NixOS thing BTW | 13:52:14 |
| raitobezarius | It's a Nix thing | 13:52:17 |
| @julienmalka:matrix.org | Flakes ares able | 13:52:33 |
| raitobezarius | Alternative daemon / service manager is probably a quite insane effort which won't happen before someone really want it | 13:52:35 |
| @julienmalka:matrix.org | * Flakes ares stable | 13:52:36 |
| @julienmalka:matrix.org | * Flakes are stable | 13:52:46 |
 Sandro 🐧 | We love systemd so much, that we are not implementing alternatives /S | 13:52:46 |
