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10 Apr 2023
@lennart:0520.chlennart to keep it on-topic again: raitobezarius please to let me know what days you are in Darmstadt or Munich, so I may join :) 15:52:29
@lennart:0520.chlennart * to keep it on-topic again: raitobezarius please do let me know what days you are in Darmstadt or Munich, so I may join :) 15:52:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @lennart:0520.ch
to keep it on-topic again: raitobezarius please do let me know what days you are in Darmstadt or Munich, so I may join :)
I will be there in May, I will try to go to Darmstadt on the 1/2/3 May probably and chain this with Munich after
15:53:13
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuswill keep you posted :)15:53:22
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hope this is the right place to ask 😅

can we get https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/222197 in 23.05?
because I believe audit falls under release critical packages and the window is closing in roughly a week 👀

22:15:17
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait is not, the list of critial packages is closely defined here https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Critical-Packages.html22:24:02
@hexa:lossy.networkhexait's a bit weird, that we're on a pre-covid release 😕22:25:04
@me:indeednotjames.com@me:indeednotjames.com
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
it is not, the list of critial packages is closely defined here https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Critical-Packages.html
I though it is, because systemd (and a lot of other packages) depend on it
22:25:35
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalots of other distros are on audit>3, so it's probably supported most places22:26:54
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa * lots of other distros are on audit>3, so it's probably supported in most reverse dependencies22:27:03
@me:indeednotjames.com@me:indeednotjames.comalright then, sorry for the noise22:27:59
@me:indeednotjames.com@me:indeednotjames.com
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
it is not, the list of critial packages is closely defined here https://nixos.github.io/release-wiki/Release-Critical-Packages.html
* I thought it is, because systemd (and a lot of other packages) depend on it
22:28:24
@hexa:lossy.networkhexano worries22:28:41
12 Apr 2023
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius hexa: llvm is a release critical package but what do we do about llvmPackages_git for example? 11:45:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius more generally: for a stable release, do we try to maintain llvmPackages_git (or any "unstable" package like this) up-to-date? 11:46:03
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusor do we want to a release a stable NixOS with a "fixed" revision?11:46:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexano idea11:46:25
@hexa:lossy.networkhexanever heard of that package 🙂11:46:30
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius alright, in that case, my opinion is that it's not shocking to not make llvmPackages_git not concerned by release critical restrictions (same for any _git package which is not "actively" used by downstream consumers) 11:47:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius also hexa do we backport zfsUnstable updates to stable releases? 11:47:25
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbecause I think this is a similar situation for this package set11:47:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusif we do backport them, it means we never release a stable NixOS with a stable (i.e. fixed revision) unstable (i.e. "_git" or "xxxUnstable") packages, right?11:48:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusalso backport criteria for them makes me confused a bit, because their name indicate they should be following closely the "unstable" trunk but it mean almost systematic backport and accepting breaking changes all the time by nature11:48:48
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Janne Heß: it would be awesome if zhf.fail could be fixed in time for ZHF 19:27:31
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuszh.fail *19:27:38
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátNXDOMAIN? And empty whois? Did it expire?19:32:24
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátGoDaddy says that I can register it :-)19:34:04
@vcunat:matrix.orgVladimír ČunátAh, zh.fail19:34:29

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