| 7 May 2022 |
 Janne Heß | Yeah I forgot about that. I'll text Graham | 17:04:54 |
| Janne Heß | He's not sure if he can manage today but he surely will do it by Monday | 17:13:15 |
| 8 May 2022 |
| Janne Heß | I was unfortunately sick today which is why I didn't write the ZHF announcement :/ I drafted it here: https://pad.helsinki.tools/hTezoIznS_WTj9-l6IVr5w so if anyone has feedback, feel free to tell me or just add it | 20:47:41 |
| Janne Heß | I will be posting it tomorrow morning my time (~10h from now). Vladimír Čunát is the staging cycle done by then? | 20:48:14 |
 Vladimír Čunát | Yes, probably a good time to merge. | 20:49:01 |
|  Gaelan Steele joined the room. | 22:56:44 |
 tomberek | Janne Heß: I added a bit. There is another thing, which is to try and get the eval failures down too. | 23:19:37 |
| 9 May 2022 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I will be posting it tomorrow morning my time (~10h from now). Vladimír Čunát is the staging cycle done by then? staging-next is merged | 05:34:59 |
| Vladimír Čunát | In reply to @janne.hess:helsinki-systems.de
I will be posting it tomorrow morning my time (~10h from now). Vladimír Čunát is the staging cycle done by then? * staging-next is merged now | 05:35:05 |
| Janne Heß | Alright, starting ZHF in a couple of minutes ;) | 09:00:51 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Evals are fresh as well now, only for trunk-combined it's catching up caching builds from staging-next. | 09:04:19 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * Evals are fresh as well now, only for trunk-combined it's still catching up caching builds from staging-next. | 09:04:25 |
| Janne Heß | I'm still waiting for zh.fail to update since there seems to be a new fully finished eval | 09:04:42 |
| Janne Heß | ah I had a discussion with h'exa (not pinging) about the detection of failed builds on the page. Do you think we should mark build with a status of Cancelled as non-failed? | 09:05:58 |
| Vladimír Čunát | I'd treat it the same as queued. | 09:06:41 |
| Vladimír Čunát | A state somewhere between failure and success. | 09:07:05 |
| Janne Heß | Hm, does that make the graph go up or not? :D | 09:07:56 |
| Janne Heß | I currently skip all evals which have queued != 0 | 09:08:17 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Hehe... you might estimate from the last status of the same job (skipping over queued and cancelled). | 09:08:39 |
| Vladimír Čunát | But I understand if that's considered too complex to do now. | 09:08:55 |
| Janne Heß | And potentiall to heavy for Hydra :/ If you cancel a whole eval, I'd have to crawl every build twice (or three times?) (the aborted build and the "last previous success/fail") | 09:09:43 |
| Vladimír Čunát | Right, if there are too many of cancelled/queued, you probably want to skip that eval anyway. | 09:15:06 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * Right, if there are too many of cancelled+queued, you probably want to skip that eval anyway (for now). | 09:15:20 |
| Vladimír Čunát | But often it doesn't seem optimal to wait because of a couple straggling builds. | 09:18:20 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * But often it doesn't seem optimal to wait because of a couple straggler builds. | 09:18:55 |
| Vladimír Čunát | * But often it doesn't seem optimal to wait just because of a couple straggler builds. | 09:20:04 |
| Janne Heß | So it begins | 10:04:09 |
| Vladimír Čunát | https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/172160 | 10:05:28 |
| Janne Heß | ah I should cross-post this to discourse | 10:05:55 |
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