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16 Jul 2021
@andi:kack.itandi-how about https://md.darmstadt.ccc.de/tpm2# ?18:59:52
@andi:kack.itandi-It is graphviz and collaborative18:59:58
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgoh wowo19:00:37
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgnice19:00:54
@andi:kack.itandi-There you go :P19:01:07
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgpage 67 TPM_PT_LOCKOUT_RECOVERY https://trustedcomputinggroup.org/wp-content/uploads/TPM-Rev-2.0-Part-2-Structures-01.38.pdf19:23:51
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgnot pointing anything out there just a primary source for the meaning of these values19:26:30
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org removed the room topic "Exploring TPMs on NixOS".19:31:12
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org andi-: should I change the main address to be #tpm:nixos.org? 19:37:09
@andi:kack.itandi-Sure19:37:56
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI'm a little confused, failedTries hasn't decremented despite recoveryTime elapsing several times19:42:47
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgso, seeing this happen I decided to look at the spec19:45:54
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org
failedTries(NV) โ€“This counter is incremented when the TPM returns TPM_RC_AUTH_FAIL. TPM2_Clear() will reset this counter to zero. This counter is also set to zero on a successful invocation of TPM2_DictionaryAttackLockReset(). This counter is decremented by one after recoveryTimeseconds if:the TPM does not record an authorization failure of a DA-protected entity,there is no power interruption, andfailedTriesis not zero
19:46:14
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI think I have errata lol19:47:56
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org andi-: do you have a handy tpm simulator's source link? 19:51:04
@andi:kack.itandi-One sec I read that earlier somewhere. If you use libvirt that is supposed to just work but with QEMU you have to launch a daemon..19:51:37
@andi:kack.itandi-https://documentation.suse.com/sles/15-SP3/html/SLES-all/tpm.html19:52:04
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orghm19:58:23
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.organnoying20:01:01
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.organd I'm sort of out of energy to dig in to this to see why it isn't decrementing20:01:12
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgbut I suppose it has to do wit this:20:01:15
@andi:kack.itandi-perhaps the TPM needs the current time?20:01:31
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org
TPM2_PT_PERSISTENT:
  ownerAuthSet:              0
  endorsementAuthSet:        0
  lockoutAuthSet:            0
  reserved1:                 0
  disableClear:              0
  inLockout:                 0
  tpmGeneratedEPS:           0
  reserved2:                 0
20:01:36
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org *
[nix-shell:~]#
TPM2_PT_PERSISTENT:
  ownerAuthSet:              0
  endorsementAuthSet:        0
  lockoutAuthSet:            0
  reserved1:                 0
  disableClear:              0
  inLockout:                 0
  tpmGeneratedEPS:           0
  reserved2:                 0
20:01:50
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org *
[nix-shell:~]# tpm2 getcap properties-variable
TPM2_PT_PERSISTENT:
  ownerAuthSet:              0
  endorsementAuthSet:        0
  lockoutAuthSet:            0
  reserved1:                 0
  disableClear:              0
  inLockout:                 0
  tpmGeneratedEPS:           0
  reserved2:                 0
20:02:03
@andi:kack.itandi-
$ tpm2 getcap properties-variable
TPM2_PT_PERSISTENT:
  ownerAuthSet:              0
  endorsementAuthSet:        0
  lockoutAuthSet:            0
  reserved1:                 0
  disableClear:              0
  inLockout:                 0
  tpmGeneratedEPS:           1
  reserved2:                 0
TPM2_PT_STARTUP_CLEAR:
  phEnable:                  1
  shEnable:                  1
  ehEnable:                  1
  phEnableNV:                1
  reserved1:                 0
  orderly:                   1
TPM2_PT_HR_NV_INDEX: 0x0
TPM2_PT_HR_LOADED: 0x0
TPM2_PT_HR_LOADED_AVAIL: 0x3
TPM2_PT_HR_ACTIVE: 0x0
TPM2_PT_HR_ACTIVE_AVAIL: 0x40
TPM2_PT_HR_TRANSIENT_AVAIL: 0x6
TPM2_PT_HR_PERSISTENT: 0x0
TPM2_PT_HR_PERSISTENT_AVAIL: 0x7
TPM2_PT_NV_COUNTERS: 0x0
TPM2_PT_NV_COUNTERS_AVAIL: 0x19
TPM2_PT_ALGORITHM_SET: 0x0
TPM2_PT_LOADED_CURVES: 0x3
TPM2_PT_LOCKOUT_COUNTER: 0x0
TPM2_PT_MAX_AUTH_FAIL: 0x3
TPM2_PT_LOCKOUT_INTERVAL: 0x3E8
TPM2_PT_LOCKOUT_RECOVERY: 0x3E8
TPM2_PT_NV_WRITE_RECOVERY: 0x0
TPM2_PT_AUDIT_COUNTER_0: 0x0
TPM2_PT_AUDIT_COUNTER_1: 0x0
20:24:59
@andi:kack.itandi-did yours report less or did you just stop copying?20:26:05
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgstopped copying20:33:52
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgmy guess is that because I haven't set a lockoutauth it isn't decrementing for some reason20:34:01
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