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@andi:kack.itandi- changed the history visibility to "world_readable" from "shared".12:07:40
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@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org^ recording material I looked at12:09:26
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@andi:kack.itandi-I've found this https://kernsec.org/wiki/index.php/Linux_Kernel_Integrity12:09:54
@andi:kack.itandi-had a bunch of (somewhat dated) links12:10:00
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI'm still waiting for someone to confirm what I believe to be a fundamentally true security property https://developers.tpm.dev/posts/1557577412:11:22
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgjust as many bots as people in here12:11:35
@andi:kack.itandi-I am still a bit confused by the requirement of different secrets to decrypt one secret. This is probably because TPMs support different trust roots(?) and each of the root has to match the secrets you want to decrypt?12:12:51
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyeah12:13:00
@andi:kack.itandi-So, why that take ownership stuff then?12:13:12
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyou can create a hierarchy of keys which reveal different amounts of data12:13:20
@andi:kack.itandi-Shouldn't I rather specify the root somehow?12:13:21
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgah12:13:35
@andi:kack.itandi-and the root is also the part that takes the two passwords?12:13:37
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgah, no12:13:43
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgheh12:13:45
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org

takeownership does 2 thinsg afaik:

  1. resets the seed which is used for all the root key calculations
  2. sets a password used to reset counters
12:14:06
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgso you can set a policy saying increment a counter on decrypt attempt, and refuse if it goes about 10, then you need the ownership password to reset it12:14:51
@andi:kack.itandi-Ok, so that part is then stored in the NV RAM of the TPM?12:15:35
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyeah12:15:43

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