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16 Jul 2021
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyeah12:15:43
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyou don't need any special credential to use the roots12:15:55
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I am still a bit confused by the requirement of different secrets to decrypt one secret.
12:16:49
@andi:kack.itandi-Does the internal seed change the PCR values? I guess it shouldn't...12:16:54
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI think this is because you're maybe not ever going to decrypt it12:16:56
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgbut maybe you're just using it for attestation 12:17:07
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI don't think the seed has anything to do with the PCR, yeah12:18:16
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgRedacted or Malformed Event12:19:07
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgah here we are12:20:30
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgyou can get what the TPM calls a "quote" which is the PCRs signed by the TPM, in a way you can trust itis actually the PCRs and not falsified 12:21:03
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orghttps://www.mankier.com/1/tpm2_quote12:21:10
@linus.heckemann:matrix.mayflower.deLinux Hackerman is moving: @linus:schreibt.jetzt joined the room.12:21:36
@andi:kack.itandi-I must also look at the OpenConnect VPN client. Apparently they integrate with the kernel keyring but there are also mentions of the TSS lib somewhere. Perhaps that stuff is really interoperable. At first I didn't think that could be the case.12:22:58
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI wonder if the openconnect server can require your PCRs to match specific values to allow a connection12:24:00
@voyager:t2bot.ioMatrix Traveler (bot) joined the room.12:24:04
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org * I wonder if the openconnect client key can require your PCRs to match specific values to allow a connection12:24:11
@andi:kack.itandi-Off-topic: Do we now have all the bots on the matrix universe? :D12:24:22
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgI would not be surprised if that were true, the TPM2 book talks about it a lot :D12:24:22
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orghaha12:24:33
@andi:kack.itandi-It is nice that we have a well documented user of all of the TPM infrastructure.12:41:49
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@andi:kack.itandi-I now wish that I could use the TPM for wireguard key derivation.12:41:58
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orgis that openconnect?12:42:04
@andi:kack.itandi-Yeah12:42:10
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.org:)12:42:14
@spacesbot:nixos.devspacesbot - keeps a log of public NixOS channels 13:00:04
@andi:kack.itandi- So yesterday I was able to wipe my state without th ecorrect password IIRC. All I did was call tpm2_clear. 13:16:47
@andi:kack.itandi-How do you protect against that?13:17:04
@andi:kack.itandi-IIRC I did set two passwords when I first setup secrets.13:17:24
@grahamc:nixos.org@grahamc:nixos.orginteresting13:21:19

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