| 12 Dec 2024 |
 Morgan (@numinit) | I'm surprised PKCS#11 can even generate keys | 04:21:48 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | support apparently has been recently improving in general with AWS and Google's cloud HSMs | 04:22:19 |
 baloo | ha yeah, the easy ones :D | 04:22:36 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | when the standard says something is optional, no one implements it | 04:22:44 |
| baloo | wait until you use the thales or entrust ones :D | 04:23:02 |
| baloo | (don't use entrust) | 04:23:09 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | lol, qualcomm low level bringup has been my recent 😢 | 04:23:27 |
| baloo | qualcomm makes HSMs? | 04:23:42 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | not really, trusted environments on chip that are TPM "compatible" | 04:24:08 |
| baloo | ha yeah those | 04:24:23 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | with as loose air quotes as Qualcomm deserves | 04:24:29 |
| baloo | This is next year project I think | 04:25:08 |
| baloo | looking forward to that >< | 04:25:13 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | that and plenty of Android (OEM) key attestation, which uses them and also completely stretches the definition of key attestation in a million ways | 04:26:28 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | asn.1 for days... | 04:27:09 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | fun fact: | 04:53:25 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | PKCS#11 was created by OASIS, the same creators of standards as well designed and respected as.... SAML | 04:53:57 |
| Morgan (@numinit) | 😬But at least they somewhat redeemed themselves with virtio. | 04:54:25 |
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| netpleb | Is it possible for me to supply the seeds for my TPM rather than have the TPM generate them? | 23:31:15 |
| netpleb | * Is it possible for me to supply the seeds to my TPM rather than have the TPM generate them? | 23:31:29 |
| netpleb | * Is it possible for me to supply the endorsement and platform seeds to my TPM rather than have the TPM generate them? | 23:36:25 |
| 16 Dec 2024 |
| netpleb | attempting to answer my own question here: as far as I can tell this is probably possible for a virtual/emulated TPM but is likely not straightforward. Still not sure about physical TPMs | 20:48:09 |
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