| 6 Jan 2025 |
 Arian | Customer isn't always right | 19:52:48 |
| Arian | Especially when it's Amazon retail x) | 19:52:57 |
 Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | AWS makes me nauseous | 19:53:03 |
 commiterate | the Amazon.com VPC is...well...quite the hairball | 19:53:05 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | i get lightheaded just thinking of AWS sometimes | 19:53:22 |
| Arian | It's allowed to be a hairball . It's like 35 years old | 19:53:32 |
| commiterate | it is but having seen some of it internally, it's inexcusable in some places | 19:53:58 |
| Arian | Still waiting for the day AWS actually starts supporting ipv6 | 19:54:04 |
| commiterate | pretty happy I was never on the retail side | 19:54:07 |
| Arian | Instead of me having to NAT64 everything through NAT Gateway to get access to internal services | 19:54:27 |
| commiterate | AWS services themselves use a really small subset of AWS services which are pretty reliable | 19:54:38 |
| Arian | I had the pleasure of working with Amazon Marketplace Services team in my first job | 19:54:53 |
| commiterate | most services are literally just 1 simple VPC and some NLB + EC2 instances or Lambda functions + API Gateway | 19:55:08 |
| Arian | The API involved uploading templated Excel sheets with SOAP | 19:55:26 |
| Arian | I love how Bezos went: y'all are APIs now and that team looked at Excel and went "i guess you're an RPC format now" | 19:56:33 |
| commiterate | well, all the office formats are really just XML under the hood so... | 19:57:01 |
| Arian | (i was helping dutch retailers put their products on Amazon) | 19:57:21 |
| Arian | Funnily enough Amazon never really caught on in NL even to date. Local competitors are way more successful | 19:57:41 |
| commiterate | I don't think they've been particularly successful outside the US | 19:58:14 |
| Arian | They're succesful here in Germany for sure. | 19:58:34 |
| commiterate | isn't Germany one of the few succesful EU marketplaces? IIRC a bunch of other EU countries have to order through Amazon Germany and deliver across borders (e.g. Ireland) | 19:59:22 |
| Arian | Yeh basically before Amazon NL was a thing i would order from Amazon UK or Amazon DE | 19:59:52 |
| Arian | And Ireland cant order from Amazon UK anymore obviously... | 20:00:20 |
| Arian | So I guess they use Germany now :') | 20:00:32 |
| commiterate | I don't even know if going through Amazon UK was ever attractive from a GBP vs. EUR markup perspective | 20:01:04 |
| Arian | For some weird obscure shit it was. E.g. anime. No idea why. But anime cheaper in the UK | 20:01:40 |
| Arian | In Germany you can only get German dubs for reasonable prices | 20:01:53 |
| commiterate | huh | 20:01:54 |
| commiterate | probably some weird licensing + redistribution shenanigans the media industry is rife with | 20:02:34 |
| Arian | Yeh I think the German dubs are expensive and they don't import the English dubs which have a way bigger market | 20:03:25 |
