| 6 Jan 2025 |
 Arian | Address belongs to a subnet. Subnet to interface
The enf | 19:50:24 |
 commiterate | yeah for simple immutable setups, the net utils are unnecessary | 19:50:29 |
| Arian | * Address belongs to a subnet. Subnet to interface
The end | 19:50:34 |
| Arian | There are no routing conflicts. I also dont understand why its needed with secondary addresses | 19:50:55 |
| Arian | Unless you have overlapping subnets from two different vpcs but then you're in a while other set of trouble? | 19:51:19 |
| commiterate | there's probably some really weird multipath mesh VPC setups | 19:51:27 |
| commiterate | though those should really be using PrivateLink or VPC Lattice | 19:51:52 |
| Arian | Amazon's biggest mistake was VPCs | 19:51:54 |
| Arian | EC2 classic was perfect | 19:51:59 |
| commiterate | some insane enterprise customer probably started asking for these unnecessarily complicated features | 19:52:36 |
| commiterate | in fact that customer was probably Amazon retail | 19:52:45 |
| Arian | Customer isn't always right | 19:52:48 |
| Arian | Especially when it's Amazon retail x) | 19:52:57 |
 Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | AWS makes me nauseous | 19:53:03 |
| commiterate | the Amazon.com VPC is...well...quite the hairball | 19:53:05 |
| Ilan Joselevich (Kranzes) | i get lightheaded just thinking of AWS sometimes | 19:53:22 |
| Arian | It's allowed to be a hairball . It's like 35 years old | 19:53:32 |
| commiterate | it is but having seen some of it internally, it's inexcusable in some places | 19:53:58 |
| Arian | Still waiting for the day AWS actually starts supporting ipv6 | 19:54:04 |
| commiterate | pretty happy I was never on the retail side | 19:54:07 |
| Arian | Instead of me having to NAT64 everything through NAT Gateway to get access to internal services | 19:54:27 |
| commiterate | AWS services themselves use a really small subset of AWS services which are pretty reliable | 19:54:38 |
| Arian | I had the pleasure of working with Amazon Marketplace Services team in my first job | 19:54:53 |
| commiterate | most services are literally just 1 simple VPC and some NLB + EC2 instances or Lambda functions + API Gateway | 19:55:08 |
| Arian | The API involved uploading templated Excel sheets with SOAP | 19:55:26 |
| Arian | I love how Bezos went: y'all are APIs now and that team looked at Excel and went "i guess you're an RPC format now" | 19:56:33 |
| commiterate | well, all the office formats are really just XML under the hood so... | 19:57:01 |
| Arian | (i was helping dutch retailers put their products on Amazon) | 19:57:21 |
| Arian | Funnily enough Amazon never really caught on in NL even to date. Local competitors are way more successful | 19:57:41 |
| commiterate | I don't think they've been particularly successful outside the US | 19:58:14 |
