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11 Nov 2024
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterateBasically we need to wait for EC2 to phase out a bunch of legacy instance types. I have no idea what that timeline is.17:42:01
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI'm happy to make the cut as soon as they stop defaulting T2 as the default instance type17:42:24
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianTo be honest17:42:28
@kranzes:matrix.orgIlan Joselevich (Kranzes)I legit don't understand why the transition to UEFI is so slow17:42:45
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI just want people to be able to use NixOS images with free tier17:42:49
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianProblem is Amazon has billions of dollars of hardware and they need to still extract money out of it :p17:43:06
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterateAWS isn't being slow here tbh. All of the new instance types over the past few years require UEFI.17:43:14
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianBefore they decommission it17:43:15
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterateIt's just that AWS keeps older instance generations around forever.17:43:27
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianAs soon as they replace T2 with t3 for free tier I'm fine with dropping bios support17:43:49
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterate * AWS isn't being slow here tbh. All of the new instance types over the past few years support (x86-64) or require (ARM64) UEFI.17:43:49
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterate Also if you want an optimally small NixOS AMI, you should probably be building your own images from scratch and making an AMI out of it with ImportSnapshot + RegisterImage instead of building a new generation on top of a base NixOS AMI (e.g. the official NixOS ones). 17:47:26
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterate Granted the image GC story right now isn't the nicest. I'm trying to get AWS to add a new AWS::EC2::Image Cfn resource to deal with that. 17:48:15
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianI am working on a script to enumerate and delete all deprecated images in an account17:48:39
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianThen I can just rely on the deprecation timestamp17:48:46
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianYeh I want to eventually have a template for nixos appliance images (with systemd-boot, systemd-stub, UKIs, measured boot, secure boot)17:49:23
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianBut still useful to have generic images17:49:56
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianFor people who just wanna SSM, or ssh for deploys17:50:05
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterateYup. Good for testing, mutable setups, and as a template/reference for others to follow.17:50:36
@arianvp:matrix.orgArianMy talk is live btw: https://youtu.be/Ee4JN3Fp17o?si=8pGzmDpGhVzN5qne17:50:44
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterate amazon-ec2-utils fixes: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/355259 23:09:58
12 Nov 2024
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13 Nov 2024
@quyse:matrix.orgquyse
In reply to @arianvp:matrix.org
As soon as they replace T2 with t3 for free tier I'm fine with dropping bios support
there are still some useful bios-only instance types, for example g4ad.* is the only instance type with AMD GPU
14:36:07
@quyse:matrix.orgquyseI mean, I agree it would be nice to remove bios support. for niche cases it's not hard to make your own .nix config if necessary14:39:21
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterateUnfortunately it's not possible to have 1 AMI that works with all instance types. The best we can do for the official NixOS AMI is to make sure it works for commonly used instance types and provide instructions on how to build your own.18:39:35
@commiterate:matrix.orgcommiterate * Unfortunately it's not possible to have 1 AMI that works with all instance types. The best we can do for the official NixOS AMI is to make sure it works for commonly used instance types (probably recently new t, m, and c instance types) and provide instructions on how to build your own.18:39:59

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