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14 Dec 2023
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org

yeah. i guess, the thing is, currently the improvement ideas are on matrix which is very ephemeral, and so it's very much just what is in everyone's head, and ....

I have a few friends who have worked on Nix things but have had bad experiences having their things bikeshed (sometimes because of misalignment with vision), and so it would be good to have a list of improvements that are explicitly encouraged and on-roadmap, to give newer people more independent agency on doing them.

22:25:22
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilYeah agreed. The docs team is doing that to a degree with docs, but it could be done better.22:27:35
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIt's much better than a year ago though :)22:27:56
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
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I'd be in favor of making nix.dev be the centralised place for docs (but really all of Nix, see https://github.com/nix-rfc-canonical-domain/rfcs/blob/canonical-domain/rfcs/1000-canonical-domain.md)
I so wish that we could acquire https://github.com/nix/ from the current user. More than even a domain name, github is the locus of Nix activity.
22:42:41
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Philip Taron: Just sent that user an email a couple weeks ago, haven't heard back though :( 22:43:26
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
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Philip Taron: Just sent that user an email a couple weeks ago, haven't heard back though :(
Man appears to be an O.G. -- last public activity in 2012.
22:45:05
@sandro:supersandro.deSandrowrite GitHub support from a nixos.org mail and try your best, I guess23:44:25
15 Dec 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilIt should be doable with the trademark, though that's gonna be on "NixOS" I presume00:15:28
@sandro:supersandro.deSandroyes, probably and getting one for nix could be hard01:00:06
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈I'm not sure we even should be trying to go that route01:10:09
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈feels kind of in bad taste to go "hi we like this name even though someone else already has it, why not give it to us"01:10:38
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈if someone personally agrees, that's one thing, but trademark enforcement stuff is something entirely different01:11:02
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAgreed. Also, this is arguably very low on the list of problems to fix..01:32:54
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric jade_: infinisil could you create an issue for what you’ve been discussing so we can track it more easily? 08:44:48
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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jade_: infinisil could you create an issue for what you’ve been discussing so we can track it more easily?
well. part of my problem is there's nowhere to put such issues. we could put it in nix.dev i guess. but there's stuff i mentioned that there's nowhere to file, as it stands today
08:50:26
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerkWe can always move issues around in the org. Please file every small thing, that makes it a lot easier to address in isolation. These Matrix exchanges are emphemeral, no one except the few people who actually read them will read them08:57:10
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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We can always move issues around in the org. Please file every small thing, that makes it a lot easier to address in isolation. These Matrix exchanges are emphemeral, no one except the few people who actually read them will read them
can we create a place for organizational issues like "notify maintainers on Hydra build failures"?
09:09:47
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgalright i have filed a stack of issues on nix.dev corresponding to the general points above09:42:18
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
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can we create a place for organizational issues like "notify maintainers on Hydra build failures"?
This is Nixpkgs
09:49:03
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
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alright i have filed a stack of issues on nix.dev corresponding to the general points above
Thanks!
10:03:45
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@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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This is Nixpkgs
ok then we have some faults in how we discover issues because such a bug would get buried
19:06:48
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgpartly github ui problems of course, but do we have a label?19:07:25
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16 Dec 2023
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20:22:18
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric A couple of things we should document 😜 20:22:21
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgoops21:56:56
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgwhen making shitposts we of course select the most obscure possible undocumented "features"21:57:45
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orghttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/27483522:01:44

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