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31 Jul 2023
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaeyou did an amazing job getting it as far as it is, but that experience and the many pitfalls of complex software written in C have us worry that it won't be very maintainable by anyone except you17:57:08
@ryantm:matrix.orgryantmAlright, well I'm still actively working on improving it, so if you have feature requests I'd be interested in hearing them.20:03:12
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennae currently there's nothing pressing since nixos-render-docs has kind of become the renderer for nixpkgs/nixos 😶 20:05:09
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaewe're not attached to the tool at all, if you can do better with mmdoc then by all means go for it20:07:13
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaebut maintainability is a concern we have, and python does tend to be easier on contributors than C20:08:11
1 Aug 2023
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@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
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but maintainability is a concern we have, and python does tend to be easier on contributors than C
I second that. From everyone I read of or talked to about documentation (I’m mainly in touch with a bunch of Haskellers) I got convinced we should put extraordinary emphasis on low tech tooling, meaning they should be easily accessible to the average user. Python ans Markdown fit the bill better than, say, C and ReST
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@rigille:matrix.orgRígille S. B. MenezesHey I'm new here, just wanted to share this because I think giving more emphasis on this tip would be a good idea in the documentation https://twitter.com/sullyj3/status/168623170344522137713:29:32
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric
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Hey I'm new here, just wanted to share this because I think giving more emphasis on this tip would be a good idea in the documentation
https://twitter.com/sullyj3/status/1686231703445221377
hey, welcome! That command is marked as experimental, and as such it is currently out of scope for nix.dev
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@rigille:matrix.orgRígille S. B. MenezesOh I see13:36:50
2 Aug 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilThis is still a draft PR and not done, but it could already use some feedback, best reviewed commit-by-commit, with most commits just moving things around, only some add new content: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/24524322:41:38
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI'd also like to discuss it briefly in this Thursday's docs team meeting22:42:17
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3 Aug 2023
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric I 90% won’t make it to todays doc-comments RFC meeting unfortunately cc Johannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki 09:21:58
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricWould be cool to have a room to discuss, should it be here, or maybe a specific one for the rfc?09:22:34
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricAlso, only 2 shepherds had ack’d today’s meeting09:24:26
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric * I 90% won’t make it to todays doc-comments RFC meeting unfortunately cc Johannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki 09:24:58
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric
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Would be cool to have a room to discuss, should it be here, or maybe a specific one for the rfc?
I’d prefer a separate one, but I don’t know who can create it on nixos.org
09:25:38
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric cc sterni 09:27:53
@sternenseemann:systemli.orgsterniI’m attending09:28:42
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric Posting here a couple of links I’d like to discuss in the call, as I’m on mobile 13:55:29
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetrichttps://github.com/NixOS/rfcs/pull/46#issuecomment-164965360613:55:32
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetrichttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/245368#discussion_r127341048113:55:58
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4 Aug 2023
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@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricIs this happening to other people as well? I sometimes get these floods of emails about our events, and it’s not clear why07:55:37
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricAlso, the list of participants with their email addresses is public, which I think is not necessary?07:56:05
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilDamn that's bad :/08:04:21

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