| 23 Sep 2024 |
 loudgolem | * I don't think lychee check should be a blocker anywhere, it should just be like warnings/report. | 21:04:11 |
 fricklerhandwerk | * Sure. But adding checks as a first step is not wrong, it will prevent things from falling apart while we're thinking | 21:04:21 |
| loudgolem | In reply to @fricklerhandwerk:matrix.org
(nix.dev has link checking and it regularly messes up builds because someone stops tolerating us hitting them) ok, linkcheck from sphinx. my experience with lychee with github urls even with github_token provided will still result in flaky 403 errors, I wonder how linkcheck is working fine | 21:11:42 |
| loudgolem | also the redirect are good to know I guess, they can also be fixed. | 21:12:10 |
| loudgolem | In reply to @fricklerhandwerk:matrix.org
Sure. But adding checks as a first step is not wrong, it will prevent things from falling apart while we're thinking do you mean checks like this sphinx/linkcheck? | 21:13:04 |
| loudgolem | does it work outside of sphinx? | 21:13:27 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @phanirithvij:matrix.org
does it work outside of sphinx? No, nix.dev linkchecks are pure Sphinix | 21:14:58 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @phanirithvij:matrix.org
does it work outside of sphinx? * No, nix.dev linkchecks are pure Sphinx | 21:15:15 |
| loudgolem | I think scheduled gha is the way to go for external links | 21:15:30 |
| loudgolem | am I right in assuming nix+nixpkgs+nixos manuals and wiki.nixos.org have a lot of overlap in people contributing? | 21:16:55 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @phanirithvij:matrix.org
am I right in assuming nix+nixpkgs+nixos manuals and wiki.nixos.org have a lot of overlap in people contributing? Eh, not that much. There are like 2-3 regular contributors who have touched all of them, but otherwise these are mostly disjoint groups as far as I can tell | 21:19:06 |
| loudgolem | maybe a single gha which checks external links among all manuals + home-pages + wiki-dump could work? | 21:19:23 |
| loudgolem | wait, need to think about rate-limits as well. | 21:19:32 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @phanirithvij:matrix.org
am I right in assuming nix+nixpkgs+nixos manuals and wiki.nixos.org have a lot of overlap in people contributing? * Eh, not that much. There are like 2-3 regular contributors who have touched all of them, but otherwise these are mostly disjoint groups as far as I can tell.
I mean, it's complicated. Define "a lot". There's not that many people working on documentation overall.
| 21:20:30 |
| fricklerhandwerk | * Eh, not that much. There are like 2-3 regular contributors who have touched all of them, but otherwise these are mostly disjoint groups as far as I can tell. I may be wrong.
I mean, it's complicated. Define "a lot". There's not that many people working on documentation overall.
| 21:20:53 |
| loudgolem | I found wiki to be easier to contribute to definitely | 21:21:24 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @phanirithvij:matrix.org
maybe a single gha which checks external links among all manuals + home-pages + wiki-dump could work? They all have very different update cycles, and running the checks in some other location from where the source is modified will just lead to people having to jump hoops. Had that with the Nix manual, please don't. | 21:21:56 |
| loudgolem | ok so gha per repo then, tested on corresponding stable manuals and sites and each repo can adjust the run frequency per its release cycle | 21:25:43 |
| loudgolem | this doesn't need an rfc does it? | 21:28:50 |
| loudgolem | I'm also interested in things like this https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nix-ecosystem-mind-map/28682/17
mindmaps, landscape, map-of-github, awesome-lists etc.
- are the graphviz graphs in that thread maintained anywhere? say in some unofficial toy repo?
- also nixos-landscape has been offline for a long time, that's a bummer
Another thing I'm interested in is to visualize/map nixpkgs health, i.e. how many packages are fresh, maintainer activity, most maintainted packages, packages without maintainers, long inactive maintainers etc. all of these clearly visible somewhere like nixpkgs.health. I see rfc 180 which adresses a few of these.
| 21:37:17 |
| loudgolem | * I'm also interested in things like this https://discourse.nixos.org/t/nix-ecosystem-mind-map/28682/17
mindmaps, landscape, map-of-github, awesome-lists etc.
- are the graphviz graphs in that thread maintained anywhere? say in some unofficial toy repo?
- also nixos-landscape has been offline for quite a while, that's a bummer
Another thing I'm interested in is to visualize/map nixpkgs health, i.e. how many packages are fresh, maintainer activity, most maintainted packages, packages without maintainers, long inactive maintainers etc. all of these clearly visible somewhere like nixpkgs.health. I see rfc 180 which adresses a few of these.
| 21:37:33 |
