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15 Jun 2023
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennae colocating docs sounds a lot like rustdoc and if repl integration is wanted we should really get the docs syntax rfc done first, and then fold everything into nix itself 18:48:26
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaeeither way, ¬docbook first. then that's finally done :D19:26:46
16 Jun 2023
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaeshould we just merge the dedocbooking pt 1 later or wait for roberth to review it too09:09:38
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar looks like nixos/doc/manual/man-pages.xml has been forgotten? 12:36:32
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarbut that was for one of the previous PR12:36:54
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * but that was for one of the previous PRs12:36:56
@i97henka:matrix.orgi97henkaHappy Friday all - https://vadimkravcenko.com/shorts/proper-documentation/ Not 100% applicable to what we do but still worth a read I think.13:28:05
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieI'm spending some time going through the open PR's in nix.dev. I'm starting with the dependabot PRs. It looks like I have the power to close issues, so I'm gonna close those I think are no longer relevant unless anyone objects?13:33:41
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieLike this for example: https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/pull/32913:33:49
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ie myst-parser in master is now 1.0.0 13:34:09
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ie Managed to close a few and merged the cachix action change. The remainder are conflicts with the poetry lock file 13:44:46
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieGonna hunt for some other low hanging fruit13:45:04
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieThere's some PR's like this one https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/pull/197 which still seem useful but I don't know how they fit into the latest docs thinking / recent work on learning journey etc13:53:34
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieIs there someone who should be a reviewer on PRs like this by default? 13:54:10
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieMaybe a group PR review session for nix.dev at some point would help get through the backlog and ping people to resolve conflicts as necessary. I don't want to prod someone to resolve a conflict just for it to get rejected 13:58:31
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennae
In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
looks like nixos/doc/manual/man-pages.xml has been forgotten?
oh, that should go away too
17:24:29
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧
In reply to @brian:bmcgee.ie
There's some PR's like this one https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/pull/197 which still seem useful but I don't know how they fit into the latest docs thinking / recent work on learning journey etc
we shouldn't recommend this. Debians version is, as usual, very out of date and maintenance is lacking
21:17:56
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧also they disable the sandbox by default which is completely unsupported on x86_64-linux and will cause issues https://salsa.debian.org/debian/nix/-/blob/master/debian/nix.install.files/nix.conf#L521:19:14
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧and the PR is from volth so we have no clue what it was about21:19:41
18 Jun 2023
@adam:valkor.netadamcstephensMaybe they’d be open to changing that setting?02:01:11
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetrichttps://mtlynch.io/notes/nix-first-impressions/18:04:26
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricLists zero-to-nix as the best learning resource for beginners18:04:54
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricWe (official docs) are nowhere on that list 😢 (yet)18:05:24
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricBut they do mention this: https://nix.dev/tutorials/nixos/build-and-deploy/installing-nixos-on-a-raspberry-pi18:06:25
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18:07:47
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric This seems to agree with the position that it’s not Nixlang that people struggle with, but the basic concepts 18:08:28
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricMaybe?18:08:58
@dmills27:matrix.orgDominic MillsI agree with this view18:10:19
@dmills27:matrix.orgDominic MillsFor the longest time I couldn't understand what flakes were and what utility it's provided over using a nix shell. 18:11:17
@dmills27:matrix.orgDominic MillsRedacted or Malformed Event18:12:03

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