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15 Dec 2023
@joepie91:pixie.townjoepie91 🏳️‍🌈if someone personally agrees, that's one thing, but trademark enforcement stuff is something entirely different01:11:02
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilAgreed. Also, this is arguably very low on the list of problems to fix..01:32:54
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric jade_: infinisil could you create an issue for what you’ve been discussing so we can track it more easily? 08:44:48
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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jade_: infinisil could you create an issue for what you’ve been discussing so we can track it more easily?
well. part of my problem is there's nowhere to put such issues. we could put it in nix.dev i guess. but there's stuff i mentioned that there's nowhere to file, as it stands today
08:50:26
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerkWe can always move issues around in the org. Please file every small thing, that makes it a lot easier to address in isolation. These Matrix exchanges are emphemeral, no one except the few people who actually read them will read them08:57:10
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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We can always move issues around in the org. Please file every small thing, that makes it a lot easier to address in isolation. These Matrix exchanges are emphemeral, no one except the few people who actually read them will read them
can we create a place for organizational issues like "notify maintainers on Hydra build failures"?
09:09:47
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgalright i have filed a stack of issues on nix.dev corresponding to the general points above09:42:18
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
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can we create a place for organizational issues like "notify maintainers on Hydra build failures"?
This is Nixpkgs
09:49:03
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
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alright i have filed a stack of issues on nix.dev corresponding to the general points above
Thanks!
10:03:45
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@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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This is Nixpkgs
ok then we have some faults in how we discover issues because such a bug would get buried
19:06:48
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgpartly github ui problems of course, but do we have a label?19:07:25
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16 Dec 2023
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20:22:18
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric A couple of things we should document 😜 20:22:21
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgoops21:56:56
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgwhen making shitposts we of course select the most obscure possible undocumented "features"21:57:45
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orghttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/27483522:01:44
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgi will say we have a possible docs policy issue where there's various things that really shouldn't be used but do get accepted in nix and we would need to make it abundantly clear that we don't encourage their use; merely that they're there22:03:05
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orglike, half the expressions in the iceberg meme :p especially the operator overloading, i really don't think that's intended22:03:44
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orga lot of this, for better or worse, is implementation details that we shouldn't commit to. but we need to develop a way of saying something is the way it is without endorsing it or stabilizing it so to speak22:05:21
@qyriad:matrix.org@qyriad:matrix.org Yes, very much so 22:05:38
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgit would be useful to have a page listing all the magic attributes on derivations that Nix itself interprets22:13:25
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org

like there's this one https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.19/language/advanced-attributes

but i think it's kind of err,, only the less cursed ones

22:14:16
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orghttps://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/962222:20:54
17 Dec 2023
@qyriad:matrix.org@qyriad:matrix.orgWe also need something for the cursed non-derivation attributes, but there's not really a great place for that atm02:41:48
@ma27:nicht-so.sexyma27
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sent an image.

nice, I got to "has meowed before" (and I can't deny that at all)

curious about the multiplayer tic-tac-toe in nix repl though (I'll consider purchasing animal ears then :3)

09:19:45
@noob_tea:matrix.orgtea @Johannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki i came back from a break and saw that rfc 145 is merged. What would be the best way for me to help implement it? 15:32:06
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil tea: Maybe check out https://github.com/nix-community/nixdoc/pull/91 15:54:20

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