| 7 Mar 2024 |
 efx | In reply to @danielsidhion:nixos.dev
I think that is already documented in the nix manual: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/installation/env-variables
It's not particularly discoverable though. What resources did you read/search for when trying to install nix on your distribution? ooh, thanks for that link! I had not seen that before. My immediate context was trying nix copy to ssh://myhost myclosure. I searched discourse, then started digging in the stable reference manual. | 17:36:12 |
| efx | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
Eli Flanagan: That should be done by the Nix installer (see here). If it's not done it sounds like something went wrong true, and the installer placed the appropriate line in the users ~/.bash_profile. Some context may clarify. I have a single user Nix installation on vanilla AmazonLinux2023 servers. | 17:37:06 |
 @jade_:matrix.org | oh hmmm i wonder if this is an old bug of mine | 17:37:36 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7508 ? | 17:38:05 |
| efx | In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
https://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/7508 ? ooh, quite helpful! I didn't know about the NIX_SSHOPTS.
FWIW, I and team have run into this issue for years. I've simply taught folks to ensure they load a login shell for the user we install nix under. | 17:39:33 |
| efx | sudo su - mynixuser | 17:39:41 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | ffs | 17:39:59 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | can we fix our bugs 😠| 17:40:08 |
| efx | lol, sorry, what does ffs mean? | 17:40:20 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | uhhh, it was uncalled for sorry | 17:40:34 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | I'm just frustrated | 17:40:39 |
| efx | oh, no worries at all! I'm a jargon freak so love to expand my lexicon. | 17:40:55 |
 infinisil | I wouldn't mind Nix just getting a feature freeze until a large part of bugs are fixed | 17:41:08 |
| efx | I'll infer frustration frustration :) | 17:41:15 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
I wouldn't mind Nix just getting a feature freeze until a large part of bugs are fixed nixpkgs did it already, the nix team just needs to actually consider what it means | 17:41:36 |
| infinisil | Oh didn't think of it that way, but yeah Nixpkgs sure did! | 17:41:56 |
| efx | For me, I've been learning the value of having these tiny roadblock issues documented with quick workarounds. They feel like minor things, not worthy of official documentation. In my understanding, community tips/tricks that are discoverable. | 17:43:47 |
| efx | Correct me if I'm wrong: https://nixos.wiki/ is not a good place for this. | 17:44:08 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | correct! | 17:44:25 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | imo this one is a bug though | 17:44:29 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | we should fix it | 17:44:32 |
| efx | hmm. What path does prefix refer to here? | 17:48:40 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | In reply to @efx:matrix.org
hmm. What path does prefix refer to here? --prefix passed to configure | 17:52:03 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | when building the program | 17:52:11 |
 danielsidhion | It's defined in a previous page when installing from source: https://nixos.org/manual/nix/stable/installation/building-source | 17:52:14 |
 Philip Taron (UTC-8) | In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
we should fix it Perhaps off-topic to #docs:nixos.org but what would you imagine a fix would be? | 17:52:28 |
| @jade_:matrix.org | In reply to @philiptaron:matrix.org
Perhaps off-topic to #docs:nixos.org but what would you imagine a fix would be? unsure. i think the rc file isn't read at all, yeah? then i think some sshd config drop in ought to be added to the installer unless you have better ideas | 17:53:17 |
| efx | ah, makes sense. Thanks for the context folks! | 17:54:27 |
| danielsidhion | In reply to @efx:matrix.org
ooh, thanks for that link! I had not seen that before. My immediate context was trying nix copy to ssh://myhost myclosure. I searched discourse, then started digging in the stable reference manual. By stable reference manual do you mean the nixpkgs manual? Just want to be sure, because we have 3 "big manuals", one for nix, one for nixos, and another for nixpkgs | 17:55:32 |
| efx | In reply to @danielsidhion:nixos.dev
By stable reference manual do you mean the nixpkgs manual? Just want to be sure, because we have 3 "big manuals", one for nix, one for nixos, and another for nixpkgs good question! my "search the docs" tends to round robin those. Lately I've trying to stick to the nix stable manual. Though I'll read nix unstable manual as I assume unstable may have more accurate documentation. | 17:56:58 |
