| 8 Nov 2023 |
 fricklerhandwerk | * https://discourse.nixos.org/t/a-portable-nix-shell-shebang/35148/2
What do you think? đđ? If we want this, anyone interested in seeing it through? | 00:27:31 |
 infinisil | It's a bit non-standard, but it seems fine | 02:27:59 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
It's a bit non-standard, but it seems fine We could iterate on it | 07:38:23 |
| 9 Nov 2023 |
 raboof | do we have any doc writing guidelines such as "try to avoid words like 'simply'"? | 09:10:41 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @raboof:matrix.org
do we have any doc writing guidelines such as "try to avoid words like 'simply'"? Whe have a style guide for nix.dev https://nix.dev/contributing/documentation/style-guide
but no specific note on âsimplyâ. | 09:33:34 |
 asymmetric | In reply to @raboof:matrix.org
do we have any doc writing guidelines such as "try to avoid words like 'simply'"? what's your beef with "simply"? đ | 09:50:15 |
| raboof | in short, documentation is almost always better without it: it is typically added to encourage the reader, but often has the opposite effect and may even appear condescending, especially when the reader runs into trouble trying to apply the suggestions from the documentation. Best-case it's mostly just noise. I'm sure others have motivated this better than I can in a few sentences though, I can see if I can dig up any good references later - first wanted to see if we had any already. | 09:55:08 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In short: whatâs simple for you may be impossible for others. Avoiding that is in line with our stance not to assume things about the reader | 10:03:08 |
| fricklerhandwerk | * In short: whatâs simple for you may be impossible for others. Avoiding that is in line with our stance not to assume things about the reader and not making value judgements | 10:03:38 |
| fricklerhandwerk | Thatâs why for instance in reviews I always suggest alternatives to âas you can seeâŚâ or âyou will see an outputâŚâ â no, not everyone can see. | 10:05:55 |
| fricklerhandwerk | There are entire software companies full of people who canât see. | 10:07:28 |
| asymmetric | My pet peeve is "trivial" đ | 10:45:38 |
| fricklerhandwerk | âLeft as an exercise for the readerâ | 11:20:52 |
| infinisil | Also "just" can have that meaning! | 11:41:24 |
| asymmetric | https://githubnext.com/projects/copilot-for-docs/ | 11:54:46 |
| asymmetric | is openai gonna write docs for us now? | 11:56:50 |
|  Alexandro de Oliveira joined the room. | 12:28:58 |
| fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.uk
is openai gonna write docs for us now?
if we can answer most of developersâ questions directly from the code, we can learn what questions are still unanswered and âinterviewâ maintainers. Instead of writing whole docsets, maintainers are prompted to write one paragraph at a time.
Hm, I don't need AI for that
| 12:57:03 |
 henrik-ch | Won't make the doc call today, sorry! | 14:34:42 |
| asymmetric | hadn't deployment of pr been fixed by delroth? | 16:21:08 |
| asymmetric | * hadn't deployment of nix.dev prs been fixed by delroth? | 16:21:13 |
| asymmetric | or am i misremembering? | 16:21:26 |
| asymmetric | huh interesting, infinisil's latest commit was deployed, but is marked as "inactive" https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/pull/645 | 16:22:12 |
| asymmetric | oh i see, it's because another pr was deployed in the meantime | 16:23:04 |
| asymmetric | then i don't know if this integration with github deployments is very useful, since it only keeps one deployment active: https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/deployments/pull%20request | 16:24:06 |
| asymmetric | whereas the action simply posts a message in a pr with a per-pr deployment | 16:24:51 |
| 10 Nov 2023 |
| infinisil | Oh yeah those deployments aren't very practical for this purpose.. | 03:49:41 |
|  @atka:matrix.org left the room. | 07:35:22 |
|  @harsh-ps-2003-63ce2d0d6da0373984bd6022:gitter.im joined the room. | 11:23:43 |
| asymmetric | Style question: do we capitalize every (important) word in titles, or just the first? | 12:46:16 |
