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23 Aug 2023
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.uk
OK, but then if it's so niche, does it really warrant being on this super short list?
Yes, it's a vocal community and I don't think we are out of space to mention it in one line and I believe i686 is considered as something we ought to support, I want to correct the expectations
18:02:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusYour call in all cases I made my point :P18:03:29
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricOK.. for my curiosity, where can i learn more about this community? Is it the people working on uxntal, collapse os, and things like that?18:03:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think it's much more spread than that, I am not in those circles to be honest and don't want to mischaracterize, I met some of them on Mastodon complaining about NixOS and 32 bits support18:04:30
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricOK, I think I'm happy to add a mention to i686 also as a signifier of a broader move away from 32bits arches.. is that correct?18:06:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSometimes it's really just random end users with their own way of seeing things18:06:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.uk
OK, I think I'm happy to add a mention to i686 also as a signifier of a broader move away from 32bits arches.. is that correct?
Strict people would say this may be invalid to talk about tier5/6/7 platforms of Nixpkgs like mips32 :p
18:06:58
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI'd really just say 32 bits x8618:07:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
Sometimes it's really just random end users with their own way of seeing things
Also I wonder if undeveloped countries have "average" access to 64 bits machine
18:07:38
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut well, we kind of already suck for those countries because of how Nix works18:07:56
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil I will skip at least tomorrows docs team meetings (but maybe also some following ones) in order to focus on implementing RFC 140. 21:57:07
24 Aug 2023
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieI have to miss today's meeting aswell, gotta pay the bills08:07:26
@mightyiam:matrix.org@mightyiam:matrix.orgSorry for not being there this time.14:06:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius ryantm: I just realized that https://ryantm.github.io/nixpkgs was quite high in search results on Google but outdated 22:34:17
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusCould we do something about this?22:34:21
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuse.g. a robots.txt to reduce its position wrt to SEO22:34:30
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(we have users citing it in nixpkgs PRs)22:35:11
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructionThat makes sense - it's the nixpkgs manual I use when I go looking for something. The mdbook style is so much better than a 50km long page22:49:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIndeed, the problem is that it's not fresh/outdated22:51:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI honestly prefer the 50 km long page :P22:51:46
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut I think offering both is not bad at all22:51:54
@ryantm:matrix.orgryantmMany people have told me they like it better than the official manual. I should commit to an update at least every release.23:50:07
@ryantm:matrix.orgryantm!00% not going to make my SEO worse in some way as long as people are telling me they prefer my manual rendering.23:55:40
@ryantm:matrix.orgryantmI'll try to update it this weekend!23:58:35
25 Aug 2023
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThank you00:05:12
@dylandoesprogramming:matrix.org@dylandoesprogramming:matrix.org left the room.00:05:36
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThat being said, I feel like it would help a lot to get this "alternative" rendering merged somehow00:06:40
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI don't have a big opinion on the rendering, but I personally find it hard to navigate the mdbook style and I prefer the long page, some prefers the mdbook and that's fine, we just have contributors who don't know what to do when folks are enforcing rules from the outdated mdbook manual00:07:29
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructionUnifying the rendering infrastructure for all the manuals has been discussed often and is on the roadmap https://github.com/nix-community/projects/issues/6, but we don't have the time/energy/(funds to throw at it)/etc currently00:13:20
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusUnderstandable00:15:24

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