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25 Jul 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil nikstur: +1 from me, having documentation right next to the implementation makes it easy to update it 13:52:04
@raboof:matrix.orgraboofRedacted or Malformed Event13:59:42
@nikstur:matrix.orgnikstur
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yeah, if you can change 'the thing' and 'the documentation for the thing' in the same commit, that's very helpful both when reviewing it and when looking at the change in the history
But this would also be possible if the docs lay somewhere completely different in the repo
14:02:31
@raboof:matrix.orgraboof🤦sorry I misread, nvm14:03:44
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26 Jul 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil asymmetric: Ping for https://github.com/nix-community/nixdoc/pull/62 :) 16:50:41
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric
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asymmetric: Ping for https://github.com/nix-community/nixdoc/pull/62 :)
Traveling today, will look at it tomorrow hopefully
19:53:14
27 Jul 2023
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@alejandrosame:matrix.orgalejandrosameI won't be joining today's meeting. See you next week!12:01:50
29 Jul 2023
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI won't be there for the Monday meeting12:33:54
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructionI'm back in civilization and will be at the Monday meeting22:57:22
30 Jul 2023
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@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetrichttps://discourse.nixos.org/t/nixos-installation-instructions-could-use-a-lot-more-details/31062/6?u=asymmetric16:42:32
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricIs the SE placement of the manuals something that the marketing team needs to work on (as in SEO), or is it dependent on us, for example by splitting the manual to reduce page load?16:43:47
@alejandrosame:matrix.orgalejandrosameHello all! This issue shouldn't be too problematic, but if you have any considerations to improve the exposition I'll appreciate the feedback: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/24623418:55:07
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@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
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Is the SE placement of the manuals something that the marketing team needs to work on (as in SEO), or is it dependent on us, for example by splitting the manual to reduce page load?
It seems to mainly hinge on the page size. Good tagging and summaries of smaller pages would surely have positive impact as well.
21:26:43
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstruction
In reply to @asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.uk
Is the SE placement of the manuals something that the marketing team needs to work on (as in SEO), or is it dependent on us, for example by splitting the manual to reduce page load?
It seems to mainly hinge on the page size. Good tagging and summaries of smaller pages would surely have positive impact as well.
22:40:52
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructiongenuinely no idea what happened there. i guess i forwarded that message to this channel? finding some rough edges in fluffychat apparently!22:41:22
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstruction
In reply to @alejandrosame:matrix.org
Hello all! This issue shouldn't be too problematic, but if you have any considerations to improve the exposition I'll appreciate the feedback: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/246234
this is great - i really like the idea of labeling every (sub)section with the relevant diataxis category as a first step
22:43:09
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructionre: the installation guide on the wiki coming up in top search engine results - this is (in my opinion) another great reason to make an actually-official one (wiki.nixos.org?) that still has community-generated content. not really sure what happened historically to yield the present state of affairs, but it's confusing and bad as everyone keeps pointing out22:46:20
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructionthat is, community-generated in the sense of not being largely dependent on stewardship by the docs team, which is still under-resourced22:47:03
31 Jul 2023
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric
In reply to @fricklerhandwerk:matrix.org
It seems to mainly hinge on the page size. Good tagging and summaries of smaller pages would surely have positive impact as well.

indeed:

  • https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-nixos-org-manual-nixos-stable/0jv7c6prdy?form_factor=desktop
  • https://pagespeed.web.dev/analysis/https-nixos-wiki-wiki-NixOS_Installation_Guide/6d6uu0tx4h?form_factor=desktop
09:22:57
@pennae:matrix.eno.space@pennae:matrix.eno.space looking at the meeting notes; henrik-ch: for which manual are you looking for alternatives? 15:40:40
@pennae:matrix.eno.space@pennae:matrix.eno.spaceor rather, what's the goal for that manual regardless of tooling15:42:13
@i97henka:matrix.orghenrik-ch Hi pennae , thank you for reaching out - when you read the meeting minutes, you may think that I am doing something or being very concrete about manual rendering alternatives, but that is not the case, rather I am being very unconcrete I would say 😀. 15:49:05

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