| 3 May 2024 |
fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @stablejoy:matrix.org Oh I see now, its like describing two directions. The assignment is describing direction from value to variable and the binding from identifier to value? That’s helpful insight. I chose “assign” because it’s not just programmer jargon but also makes sense in everyday life. You “assign someone to a task”, things like that. You wouldn’t “bind a task to someone”. | 09:11:41 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | In reply to @fricklerhandwerk:matrix.org That’s helpful insight. I chose “assign” because it’s not just programmer jargon but also makes sense in everyday life. You “assign someone to a task”, things like that. You wouldn’t “bind a task to someone”. Oh. I guess you could assign a task to someone who is bound by oath to you | 10:21:07 |
toonn | I think the point is more that "to assign" is more commonly understood than "to bind." | 10:36:08 |
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@stablejoy:matrix.org | In reply to @toonn:matrix.org I think the point is more that "to assign" is more commonly understood than "to bind." Can one say then you assign a value to a variable and you bind an expression to a variable. The second is said in nix repl help. Also binding functions vs assigning values? | 16:05:27 |
toonn | You bind to identifiers rather than values. | 16:52:22 |
toonn | In most languages functions aren't first-class values so a different term is useful to distinguish what you do with them. | 16:52:54 |
toonn | But in Nix functions are just values. | 16:53:02 |
Qyriad | In reply to@toonn:matrix.org I think the point is more that "to assign" is more commonly understood than "to bind." Worth noting that Rust uses bind for their let construct, instead of assign, which seems to get by fine | 16:58:39 |
toonn | Sure, the reasoning is probably that Nix is more likely to be touched by non-programmers. | 17:11:11 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | I made a yt channel and am making recordings while going through all nix dev tutorials. | 17:46:58 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | https://youtu.be/YdrS3at-O9k?si=AttmjkwlTAFhAcBG | 17:47:35 |
| 4 May 2024 |
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| 6 May 2024 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | https://github.com/NixOS/nix.dev/pull/974 | 06:33:20 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | the issue remains in the icat.nix | 06:34:00 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | is the lib supposed to stay throughout the tutorial? | 06:34:28 |
fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @stablejoy:matrix.org is the lib supposed to stay throughout the tutorial? Replied in the PR thread | 07:29:26 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | In reply to @fricklerhandwerk:matrix.org Replied in the PR thread I made all the changes and updated the text a bit. | 08:16:36 |
@stablejoy:matrix.org | oh nice I actually recorded an episode of fixing this :D | 08:19:15 |
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| 8 May 2024 |
fricklerhandwerk | Hey everyone, today is the first documentation office hour. I'm hanging out in https://jitsi.lassul.us/nix-documentation | 08:02:59 |
fricklerhandwerk | Here's the announcement btw: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/documentation-office-hours-onboarding-for-new-maintainers/45015
The next session will be tomorrow, Thursday 2024-05-09 16:00-17:00 UTC. Since attendance is currently low and I'm sometimes flexible, feel free to ask if you want to move a particular meeting. | 08:18:58 |
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| 13 May 2024 |
Philip Taron (UTC-8) | Folks, I'd like to expose the derivations under doc/default.nix in the pkgs namespace. Are there reasons that I'm missing that they're not exposed there today? | 15:39:20 |