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3 Apr 2024
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4 Apr 2024
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host

infinisil: fricklerhandwerk

It seems all documentation jobs from the last 4 hrs kept failing in nixpks. Who could take a look at cachix?

https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/actions/workflows/manual-nixpkgs.yml

  Binary cache nixpkgs-ci doesn't exist or it's private and you need a token: Start by visiting https://app.cachix.org and create a personal/cache auth token.
  
  To configure the token:
  
  a) Via environment variable: 
  
  $ export CACHIX_AUTH_TOKEN=<token...>
  
  b) Via configuration file:
  
  $ cachix authtoken <token...>::error::Action failed with error: Error: The process '/home/runner/.nix-profile/bin/cachix' failed with exit code 1
09:21:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil Johannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki Oh that's odd, no idea about that. Can you open an issue and ping the original authors of the workflow? 09:24:43
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostNo codeowners found. I'll notify the workflow admins mic92 and zowoq09:32:17
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostProblem found. jonas deleted the cache ^^. He'll recreate it now 😃09:38:42
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilDocs team meeting now, anybody joining? https://jitsi.lassul.us/nix-documentation14:04:18
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostSorry cannot make it.14:08:37
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host But if anyone could review the other nixdoc pr i opened recently 14:09:02
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host Ah just saw infinisil already requested changes 14:09:43
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil danielsidhion: If you want I can give you an email invite for the doc team meetings, you can PM me an email for that 15:30:36
@pennae:matrix.eno.space@pennae:matrix.eno.space infinisil while you're at it, can you remove us from the invite list? 15:36:04
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil pennae: Yeah, though I'm not sure which email is yours, I can't find a pennae one 15:37:24
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI tried out something new with the google calendar event: I turned off the ability to see who's invited. This was rarely necessary and I believe it's what might be causing the emails getting sent every time a new person is invited15:52:39
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil danielsidhion: I just removed somebody inactive from the invites, did you get an update email for that? 15:54:59
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil^^ Or anybody else that has been getting update emails before15:55:24
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil wamirez: I think you might have gotten update emails in the past, could you check? ^ 16:05:25
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil * wamirez: I think you might have gotten update emails in the past, could you check that you don't anymore? ^ 16:05:40
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhion
In reply to @infinisil:matrix.org
danielsidhion: I just removed somebody inactive from the invites, did you get an update email for that?
Didn't get any update emails
16:13:33
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNice, I think this might work then16:37:43
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5 Apr 2024
@roberthensing:matrix.orgRobert Hensing (roberth) quick thought: maybe reconsider calling everything a manual? Although it seems to be possible to call reference material "manual", the word often refers to more guide-like material 09:33:27
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhionI think the term "manual" is orthogonal to the purpose of the material. Both nix and nixpkgs manuals are actually named "reference manual" to explain their purpose (to be a reference). Personally I think the word "guide" is way more popular to refer to guide-like material (e.g. "user guide").10:55:57
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhionSometimes people do use the term "manual" in the form "user manual" to refer to guide-like material, though10:56:35
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhionDo you have a suggestion that would make things clearer?10:56:58
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhionAs for the nixos manual - I'd agree with renaming it to nixos user guide or nixos user manual or something like that10:59:02
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhionMaybe "nix(pkgs) reference (material|documentation|book)" and "nixos user guide", and avoid any misunderstanding with the word manual entirely?11:02:36
@anderson_torres:matrix.org@anderson_torres:matrix.orgWhat we have that would be equiv to A handbook?12:59:10
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilMaybe just "Nix[pkgs] reference"18:31:47
@anderson_torres:matrix.org@anderson_torres:matrix.org* What we have that would be equiv to a handbook?21:28:46

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