| 19 May 2024 |
@deltaflow:matrix.org | For sure! Going to try and join office hours / do some general lurking. But will compile some thoughts ๐ | 00:31:37 |
antifuchs | In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org The โI installed a library but my compiler is not finding it. Why?โ section disappeared between these two revisions but it is not listed in the diff. Think this is a diff display bug - selecting โvisualโ instead of โwikitextโ shows the removal. | 02:20:50 |
djacu | In reply to @danielsidhion:nixos.dev I'm just catching up on (a lot of) discussions, feel free to! So I created a new column for mkdocs with the Material theme. I've used it in the past and significantly improves the UX of mkdocs. I've answered most of the questions for that combo and I'll try to answer the questions for mkdocs by itself.
I don't understand some of the questions being asked. Could you elaborate on the following?
- Can we deep-link anywhere in the text? (Do you mean literally anywhere or just headers?)
- Does it support tagref or anything similar? (Can you give an example?)
- Does it support the example notation we currently use? (Can you give an example?)
- Can we get a list of all possible links that someone may use?
- How can we generate option docs with it? (I was under the impression that option docs can output to json or markdown. And you would want to create a webpage from that?)
- Can we render it to multiple pages?
- Can we fit the nixos module documentation in it?
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Jan Tojnar | In reply to @antifuchs:asf.computer Think this is a diff display bug - selecting โvisualโ instead of โwikitextโ shows the removal. the wikitext diff now shows transclusion removed (I must have missed yesterday?), I have reverted it https://wiki.nixos.org/w/index.php?title=FAQ&diff=prev&oldid=12886 | 10:19:41 |
@deltaflow:matrix.org | I've been lurking through the style guide and such. We use plain language and most of the other standards where I work. So this will be fun ๐ | 19:22:26 |
| 20 May 2024 |
| mei ๐& changed their display name from ckie (they/them) to mei ๐&. | 00:07:24 |
alejandrosame | I just pushed a PR to push forward doc autogeneration: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/313095 | 10:06:44 |
alejandrosame | * I just pushed a draft PR to push forward doc autogeneration: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/313095 | 10:08:42 |
| 21 May 2024 |
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danielsidhion | In reply to @djacu:matrix.org
So I created a new column for mkdocs with the Material theme. I've used it in the past and significantly improves the UX of mkdocs. I've answered most of the questions for that combo and I'll try to answer the questions for mkdocs by itself.
I don't understand some of the questions being asked. Could you elaborate on the following?
- Can we deep-link anywhere in the text? (Do you mean literally anywhere or just headers?)
- Does it support tagref or anything similar? (Can you give an example?)
- Does it support the example notation we currently use? (Can you give an example?)
- Can we get a list of all possible links that someone may use?
- How can we generate option docs with it? (I was under the impression that option docs can output to json or markdown. And you would want to create a webpage from that?)
- Can we render it to multiple pages?
- Can we fit the nixos module documentation in it?
- Can we deep-link anywhere in the text? (Do you mean literally anywhere or just headers?)
- Literally anywhere (e.g. currently we can use
{}[#custom-header] almost anywhere in the text and we'll be able to link to that specific part)
- Does it support tagref or anything similar? (Can you give an example?)
- I added a link to https://github.com/stepchowfun/tagref in the spreadsheet. I was referring to that project (or anything that tries to achieve the same thing)
- Does it support the example notation we currently use? (Can you give an example?)
- https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/1f82020865a982a3f82934b420165ceb331a3505/doc/README.md?plain=1#L120-L125
- Can we get a list of all possible links that someone may use?
- Read https://discourse.nixos.org/t/a-roadmap-for-the-documentation-ecosystem/42328/5 and some of the discussion there for more info. What this question asks is "does this framework generate a 'report' of all URLs (including fragments) that are valid with the current content, or does it make this possible in some way?".
- How can we generate option docs with it? (I was under the impression that option docs can output to json or markdown. And you would want to create a webpage from that?)
- Primarily for backwards compatibility (since we already have a webpage with them), yes. It's possible that further modification of the option docs output will be needed, or there might be other interesting ways to display its contents, which is why this question is there.
- Can we render it to multiple pages?
- Whether the entire content can be rendered as a multi-page doc (with working crosslinks) rather than the current single-page one.
- Can we fit the nixos module documentation in it?
- The nixos module documentation is generated dynamically (see https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/ad2096e23d09a67fdbbcd92e068db4119b0999fe/nixos/doc/manual/default.nix#L84-L87 ). This question is whether (and very high level of how) we'd be able to fit that stuff into the framework.
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alejandrosame | PR with just python interpreter table autogeneration: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/313408 | 14:20:47 |
Sandro ๐ง | IMO slightly overengineered but here we are | 15:34:38 |
fricklerhandwerk | It's office hours again! https://jitsi.lassul.us/nix-documentation | 19:01:35 |
fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de IMO slightly overengineered but here we are alejandrosame and me undid the overengineering, ready for review now: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/313408 | 21:47:13 |
| 22 May 2024 |
djacu | fricklerhandwerk: alejandrosame I took a look through the code and wrote a comment with a simplified version of the code. Let me know what you all think. | 06:41:06 |
fricklerhandwerk | In reply to @djacu:matrix.org fricklerhandwerk: alejandrosame I took a look through the code and wrote a comment with a simplified version of the code. Let me know what you all think. Cool, thanks a lot. Some good ideas to further boil it down | 06:50:34 |
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| 23 May 2024 |
fricklerhandwerk | Documentation office hours in 18 minutes: https://jitsi.lassul.us/nix-documentation | 14:12:59 |
| 25 May 2024 |
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enn_ | ๐ I'm a low-ish knowledge nix user & I have an idea to improve the onboarding / learning experience. What is the best thing for me to read to understand your preferred way to receive such suggestions? The tldr is I've landed at https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/e0c94b91ee7b8dd30e669228c01f1b75179f1903/src/libcmd/installable-flake.cc#L195 . My fight back to where I should be is massively more difficult that it should be. I suspect I'm the exact class/type of idiot we should be able to make more productive here ๐คฃ. As an aside, I saw a recent post about looking for folks to help with docs and blew it off, but apparently the universe has other ideas, and here I am ๐
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proofconstruction | In reply to @enn_:matrix.org ๐ I'm a low-ish knowledge nix user & I have an idea to improve the onboarding / learning experience. What is the best thing for me to read to understand your preferred way to receive such suggestions? The tldr is I've landed at https://github.com/NixOS/nix/blob/e0c94b91ee7b8dd30e669228c01f1b75179f1903/src/libcmd/installable-flake.cc#L195 . My fight back to where I should be is massively more difficult that it should be. I suspect I'm the exact class/type of idiot we should be able to make more productive here ๐คฃ. As an aside, I saw a recent post about looking for folks to help with docs and blew it off, but apparently the universe has other ideas, and here I am ๐
Welcome! For suggestions, typically they are made here, in a GitHub Issue, or by implementing the change and making a pull request to the appropriate repository. In all cases there will be an associated thread of comments and follow up suggestions. | 19:46:58 |
| 27 May 2024 |
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ryantm |  Download image.png | 22:30:29 |
ryantm | https://nixos.org/nix/manual/ | 22:30:32 |
ryantm | ^ this is the top link for the search "nix manual" | 22:31:21 |
tomberek | Trying to redeploy to Netlify, but we have some auth problems. Rok has access. | 22:39:46 |
tomberek | https://github.com/NixOS/nixos-homepage/actions/runs/9274765717/job/25520216514#step:6:22 | 22:40:15 |