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17 May 2024
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu
In reply to @johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host

https://ethercalc.net/dc4vcnnl8zv0
I can answer some of those questions when I have time. Is it okay to edit that document?
16:20:27
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostHm. Not sure this belongs to danielSidhion. Id at least not delete stuff, but if you know some answers that you'd save a lot of time i guess.16:38:01
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host * Hm. Not sure this belongs to danielSidhion. I'd at least not delete stuff, but if you know some answers that you'd save a lot of time i guess.16:38:08
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host
Hm. Not sure this belongs to danielSidhion. I'd at least not delete stuff, but if you know some answers that you'd save a lot of time i guess.
If it’s not world writable you can always fork it and paste it under the discourse post where it’s linked outlining
16:38:52
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host
Hm. Not sure this belongs to danielSidhion. I'd at least not delete stuff, but if you know some answers that you'd save a lot of time i guess.
* If it’s not world writable you can always fork it and paste it under the discourse post where it’s linked
16:39:02
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostIts editable, thats why he asks ;)16:39:16
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@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu

Hey team

I met null in the JB Nix Nerds matrix space. We've been chatting about how they can get involved and they mentioned they are a Technical Writer. They said they would like to help out so I invited them here and gave them a link to the nixos calendar.

19:21:06
@deltaflow:matrix.org@deltaflow:matrix.orgHi all, love Nix, love the community, and looking to help out wherever I can. I'm in technical writing/editing/knowledge management for a telecommunications company by trade, so hoping I can use those skills here.19:31:48
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18 May 2024
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarwhat the heck is happening here? https://wiki.nixos.org/w/index.php?title=FAQ&diff=11690&oldid=1168911:09:44
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan TojnarThe “I installed a library but my compiler is not finding it. Why?” section disappeared but it is not listed in the diff.11:09:59
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar * The “I installed a library but my compiler is not finding it. Why?” section disappeared between these two revisions but it is not listed in the diff.11:10:16
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@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @deltaflow:matrix.org
Hi all, love Nix, love the community, and looking to help out wherever I can. I'm in technical writing/editing/knowledge management for a telecommunications company by trade, so hoping I can use those skills here.
Would love to e-meet you! Maybe you can already provide some feedback on the general state of affairs with documentation?
20:04:07
@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhion
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org
I can answer some of those questions when I have time. Is it okay to edit that document?
I'm just catching up on (a lot of) discussions, feel free to!
22:40:06
19 May 2024
@deltaflow:matrix.org@deltaflow:matrix.orgFor sure! Going to try and join office hours / do some general lurking. But will compile some thoughts 🙂00:31:37
@antifuchs:asf.computerantifuchs
In reply to @jtojnar:matrix.org
The “I installed a library but my compiler is not finding it. Why?” section disappeared between these two revisions but it is not listed in the diff.
Think this is a diff display bug - selecting “visual” instead of “wikitext” shows the removal.
02:20:50
@djacu:matrix.orgdjacu
In reply to @danielsidhion:nixos.dev
I'm just catching up on (a lot of) discussions, feel free to!

So I created a new column for mkdocs with the Material theme. I've used it in the past and significantly improves the UX of mkdocs. I've answered most of the questions for that combo and I'll try to answer the questions for mkdocs by itself.

I don't understand some of the questions being asked. Could you elaborate on the following?

  • Can we deep-link anywhere in the text? (Do you mean literally anywhere or just headers?)
  • Does it support tagref or anything similar? (Can you give an example?)
  • Does it support the example notation we currently use? (Can you give an example?)
  • Can we get a list of all possible links that someone may use?
  • How can we generate option docs with it? (I was under the impression that option docs can output to json or markdown. And you would want to create a webpage from that?)
  • Can we render it to multiple pages?
  • Can we fit the nixos module documentation in it?
05:23:37
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnar
In reply to @antifuchs:asf.computer
Think this is a diff display bug - selecting “visual” instead of “wikitext” shows the removal.
the wikitext diff now shows transclusion removed (I must have missed yesterday?), I have reverted it https://wiki.nixos.org/w/index.php?title=FAQ&diff=prev&oldid=12886
10:19:41
@deltaflow:matrix.org@deltaflow:matrix.orgI've been lurking through the style guide and such. We use plain language and most of the other standards where I work. So this will be fun 🙂19:22:26
20 May 2024
@ckie:ckie.devmei 🌒& changed their display name from ckie (they/them) to mei 🌒&.00:07:24
@alejandrosame:matrix.orgalejandrosameI just pushed a PR to push forward doc autogeneration: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31309510:06:44
@alejandrosame:matrix.orgalejandrosame * I just pushed a draft PR to push forward doc autogeneration: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31309510:08:42
21 May 2024
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@danielsidhion:nixos.devdanielsidhion
In reply to @djacu:matrix.org

So I created a new column for mkdocs with the Material theme. I've used it in the past and significantly improves the UX of mkdocs. I've answered most of the questions for that combo and I'll try to answer the questions for mkdocs by itself.

I don't understand some of the questions being asked. Could you elaborate on the following?

  • Can we deep-link anywhere in the text? (Do you mean literally anywhere or just headers?)
  • Does it support tagref or anything similar? (Can you give an example?)
  • Does it support the example notation we currently use? (Can you give an example?)
  • Can we get a list of all possible links that someone may use?
  • How can we generate option docs with it? (I was under the impression that option docs can output to json or markdown. And you would want to create a webpage from that?)
  • Can we render it to multiple pages?
  • Can we fit the nixos module documentation in it?
  • Can we deep-link anywhere in the text? (Do you mean literally anywhere or just headers?)
    • Literally anywhere (e.g. currently we can use {}[#custom-header] almost anywhere in the text and we'll be able to link to that specific part)
  • Does it support tagref or anything similar? (Can you give an example?)
    • I added a link to https://github.com/stepchowfun/tagref in the spreadsheet. I was referring to that project (or anything that tries to achieve the same thing)
  • Does it support the example notation we currently use? (Can you give an example?)
    • https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/1f82020865a982a3f82934b420165ceb331a3505/doc/README.md?plain=1#L120-L125
  • Can we get a list of all possible links that someone may use?
    • Read https://discourse.nixos.org/t/a-roadmap-for-the-documentation-ecosystem/42328/5 and some of the discussion there for more info. What this question asks is "does this framework generate a 'report' of all URLs (including fragments) that are valid with the current content, or does it make this possible in some way?".
  • How can we generate option docs with it? (I was under the impression that option docs can output to json or markdown. And you would want to create a webpage from that?)
    • Primarily for backwards compatibility (since we already have a webpage with them), yes. It's possible that further modification of the option docs output will be needed, or there might be other interesting ways to display its contents, which is why this question is there.
  • Can we render it to multiple pages?
    • Whether the entire content can be rendered as a multi-page doc (with working crosslinks) rather than the current single-page one.
  • Can we fit the nixos module documentation in it?
    • The nixos module documentation is generated dynamically (see https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/ad2096e23d09a67fdbbcd92e068db4119b0999fe/nixos/doc/manual/default.nix#L84-L87 ). This question is whether (and very high level of how) we'd be able to fit that stuff into the framework.
07:17:40
@alejandrosame:matrix.orgalejandrosamePR with just python interpreter table autogeneration: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/31340814:20:47
@sandro:supersandro.deSandro 🐧IMO slightly overengineered but here we are15:34:38
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerkIt's office hours again! https://jitsi.lassul.us/nix-documentation19:01:35
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @sandro:supersandro.de
IMO slightly overengineered but here we are
alejandrosame and me undid the overengineering, ready for review now: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/313408
21:47:13

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