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26 Jul 2024
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @philiptaron:matrix.org
Hmmm, I really liked how doc/ was now the actual documentation and there wasn't what I considered to be an awkward doc-support directory that wasn't documentation. But I'll take your feedback.
I understand, but arguably none of that content should actually live in there, and instead be right in or next to the code it's documenting
17:18:56
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerkAnd also the glue code is hardly separable from the content structure that it helps produce17:19:24
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @philiptaron:matrix.org
Hmmm, I really liked how doc/ was now the actual documentation and there wasn't what I considered to be an awkward doc-support directory that wasn't documentation. But I'll take your feedback.
* I understand, but arguably most of that content should actually live in there, and instead be right in or next to the code it's documenting
17:19:39
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk * I understand, but arguably barely any of that content should actually live in there, and instead be right in or next to the code it's documenting 17:19:47
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostJohannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki Yeah good work appreciate it.
I also agree to the locality point of fricklerhandwerk
17:22:47
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostJohannes Kirschbauer @hsjobekiBut also could be another PR17:22:59
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk
In reply to @johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host
But also could be another PR
Sure, moving around lots of stuff is a completely different thing. I'm just saying let's leave everything there, but make the package more conventional
17:24:21
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @fricklerhandwerk:matrix.org
And also the glue code is hardly separable from the content structure that it helps produce

I think I have the opposite intuition -- most of nixpkgs is code to orchestrate builds that is separated from the origin (i.e. upstream.) So when there's orchestration of builds within nixpkgs, my intuition is that separating it is normal and expected.

Since nixpkgs building on nixpkgs is a rare occurrence (mostly maintainers/, doc/, and nixos/) I doubt there's a pattern to it.

I'll follow your guidance, though.

17:26:42
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/311459 -- I think it's ready for review.20:52:24
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@metello:matrix.orgtorarittehey, are there any active work going on the Nixpkgs manual's overrides and overlays sections? I only found https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/255132 (doc: Improve overlays section) on the documentation team's project board (https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects/15/views/1) 01:29:42
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil
In reply to @metello:matrix.org
hey, are there any active work going on the Nixpkgs manual's overrides and overlays sections? I only found https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/255132 (doc: Improve overlays section) on the documentation team's project board (https://github.com/orgs/NixOS/projects/15/views/1)
Related ongoing work by Johannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/325479
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@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostJohannes Kirschbauer @hsjobekiIs there some section that explains what nixpkgs is and how it works. By that i mean - How is nixpgs bootstrapped, what are packageSets, scopes and why can packageA use packageB as buildInput if they are defined in the same package set. (fixed point recursion)15:47:15
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilI don't think so16:12:03
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisilNotably what Nixpkgs is should be in the Nixpkgs manual, while how it works should arguably be in the contribution docs16:12:30
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@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostJohannes Kirschbauer @hsjobekiAsking this Here because i Cannot figure it Out by Reading our Docs; Anyone knows how impureEnvVars Work? I have found this one. But i dont Like to write credentials into my nixos config. https://discourse.nixos.org/t/how-to-use-impureenvvars/30322 Can i make 'nix build' Pickup/Forward the impureEnvVars somehow? 15:52:35
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