| 18 Dec 2023 |
 @tejing:matrix.org | the biggest thing that's hard to communicate is how much they don't actually matter | 05:22:35 |
 @bzzm3r:matrix.org | In reply to @tejing:matrix.org
It's really hard to communicate the status of flakes to a newbie Yup, which is why I think that a value-judgement-free route is to explicitly say: "hey, flakes have some cool ideas, but you'll have a smoother start without them, and once you're set, you'll find it much easier to use and understand them" | 05:22:50 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | you can use them, or not use them. It doesn't have much actual impact on what you can and can't do, or how easy or hard it is | 05:23:00 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | every newbie and his brother is convinced everything under the sun "requires flakes"... I suspect because they're doing a lot of their learning from people who don't actually understand things themselves all that well, and only learned flakes | 05:24:16 |
| @tejing:matrix.org | so they just aren't aware that all this stuff is just as doable without them | 05:24:41 |
| @bzzm3r:matrix.org | In reply to @tejing:matrix.org
every newbie and his brother is convinced everything under the sun "requires flakes"... I suspect because they're doing a lot of their learning from people who don't actually understand things themselves all that well, and only learned flakes partly! but also, in my case, I'm not ashamed to admit that some of the places talking from the flakes angle had really good graphic design | 05:24:53 |
| @bzzm3r:matrix.org | and therefore, an aura of respectability, professionalism | 05:25:00 |
| @bzzm3r:matrix.org | when I started out, I thought the DetSys Nix installer was a the NixOS installer | 05:25:23 |
