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@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
unsure. i think the rc file isn't read at all, yeah? then i think some sshd config drop in ought to be added to the installer unless you have better ideas
I wonder if we couldn't do something in nixpkgs that would be a ready-to-go sshd that's specific to ssh-ng 🤔
21:44:39
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
unsure. i think the rc file isn't read at all, yeah? then i think some sshd config drop in ought to be added to the installer unless you have better ideas
*

I wonder if we couldn't do something in nixpkgs that would be a ready-to-go sshd that's specific to ssh-ng 🤔

As in, it doesn't depend on outside state, and is configured exclusively for use with being used as a Nix builder.

21:45:40
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
In reply to @philiptaron:matrix.org

I wonder if we couldn't do something in nixpkgs that would be a ready-to-go sshd that's specific to ssh-ng 🤔

As in, it doesn't depend on outside state, and is configured exclusively for use with being used as a Nix builder.

the actual more reasonable thing here is a ssh service/subsystem/whateveritis like sftp
21:48:56
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
the actual more reasonable thing here is a ssh service/subsystem/whateveritis like sftp
Now that's a flavor I haven't heard in forever. Does anyone else do that?!
21:49:30
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgsubsystem seems like the absolute cleanest way of doing this tbqh, but putting PATH stuff in a drop in for sshd_config somewhere would also work21:55:44
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
subsystem seems like the absolute cleanest way of doing this tbqh, but putting PATH stuff in a drop in for sshd_config somewhere would also work
Do you see a way of doing a drop-in style config? sshd_config isn't making me see any. I agree after reading the docs on subsystem that a nix subsystem would be 🔥
22:12:49
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgat least archlinux has /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d22:14:48
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)
In reply to @jade_:matrix.org
subsystem seems like the absolute cleanest way of doing this tbqh, but putting PATH stuff in a drop in for sshd_config somewhere would also work
* Do you see a way of doing a drop-in style config? sshd_config isn't making me see any. I agree after reading the docs on subsystem that a nix or nix-daemon subsystem would be 🔥
22:14:50
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgbut i am guessing it is a distro thing maybe?22:15:04
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)That would be super lame.22:15:14
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)

Of course it is: https://manpages.debian.org/unstable/openssh-server/sshd_config.5.en.html

Note that the Debian openssh-server package sets several options as standard in /etc/ssh/sshd_config which are not the default in sshd(8):

Include /etc/ssh/sshd_config.d/*.conf
22:23:46
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgfixing bad distro decisions in the installer seems a bit questionable, because of peoples jank configuration management systems or suchlike22:36:32
@philiptaron:matrix.orgPhilip Taron (UTC-8)yeah, running a completely separate sshd seems more kosher to me.23:00:30
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@pederbs:pvv.ntnu.nopbsdsi'm looking at a doc PR which has a 23.11 backport label. Is it common to backport doc fixups?23:14:07

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