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15 Dec 2023
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16 Dec 2023
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@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric A couple of things we should document 😜 20:22:21
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgoops21:56:56
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgwhen making shitposts we of course select the most obscure possible undocumented "features"21:57:45
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orghttps://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/27483522:01:44
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgi will say we have a possible docs policy issue where there's various things that really shouldn't be used but do get accepted in nix and we would need to make it abundantly clear that we don't encourage their use; merely that they're there22:03:05
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orglike, half the expressions in the iceberg meme :p especially the operator overloading, i really don't think that's intended22:03:44
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orga lot of this, for better or worse, is implementation details that we shouldn't commit to. but we need to develop a way of saying something is the way it is without endorsing it or stabilizing it so to speak22:05:21
@qyriad:matrix.org@qyriad:matrix.org Yes, very much so 22:05:38
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orgit would be useful to have a page listing all the magic attributes on derivations that Nix itself interprets22:13:25
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like there's this one https://nix.dev/manual/nix/2.19/language/advanced-attributes

but i think it's kind of err,, only the less cursed ones

22:14:16
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.orghttps://github.com/NixOS/nix/issues/962222:20:54
17 Dec 2023
@qyriad:matrix.org@qyriad:matrix.orgWe also need something for the cursed non-derivation attributes, but there's not really a great place for that atm02:41:48
@ma27:nicht-so.sexyma27
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sent an image.

nice, I got to "has meowed before" (and I can't deny that at all)

curious about the multiplayer tic-tac-toe in nix repl though (I'll consider purchasing animal ears then :3)

09:19:45
@noob_tea:matrix.orgtea @Johannes Kirschbauer @hsjobeki i came back from a break and saw that rfc 145 is merged. What would be the best way for me to help implement it? 15:32:06
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil tea: Maybe check out https://github.com/nix-community/nixdoc/pull/91 15:54:20
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostYep. I'd really appreciate some help with the nixpks manual rendering. I have a PR that has the now format for all the comments already, but we cannot merge it until the rendering works out. https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/262987 (Should be merged in small pieces)18:28:11
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host * tea: Yep. I'd appreciate some help with the nixpks manual rendering.
I have a PR that has the now format for all the comments already, but we cannot merge it until the rendering works out.
https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/262987 (Should be merged in small pieces)
18:28:44
@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.host@johannes.kirschbauer:scs.ems.hostI'm currently working on the next gen. documentation framework that could work for all nix repositories. Would also appreciate any help there. :)18:31:40
@jade_:matrix.org@jade_:matrix.org
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nice, I got to "has meowed before" (and I can't deny that at all)

curious about the multiplayer tic-tac-toe in nix repl though (I'll consider purchasing animal ears then :3)

puck was responsible as usual. ;)

it's abusing pathExists plus toFile, with predictable hashes

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