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23 Aug 2023
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetrichah interesting, why is that? who/what uses that?17:53:56
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSustainable computing, 32 bits is all you need, not throwing out perfectly functional 32 bits hardware17:59:56
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusThis type of niche community18:00:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusFor me, removing i686 makes sense because the 32 bits kernel is not really maintained18:00:22
@penguincoder:matrix.wolfie.pw@penguincoder:matrix.wolfie.pwGentoo also supports spending-all-of-your-time-on-a-computer with the i686 architecture!18:00:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut NixOS is better on that goal because we have a binary cache for i68618:01:00
@penguincoder:matrix.wolfie.pw@penguincoder:matrix.wolfie.pwI 💯 agree on that point18:01:17
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusMaking it much realistic to use your 32 bits computer, sometimes, even a browser!!18:01:25
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
This type of niche community
OK, but then if it's so niche, does it really warrant being on this super short list?
18:01:53
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusEither case, I find the goal cool and noble, but it's complicated to deal with18:02:04
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetric I started with a much more comprehensive PR, but gave up because of lack of time to figure out each individual platform 18:02:23
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.uk
OK, but then if it's so niche, does it really warrant being on this super short list?
Yes, it's a vocal community and I don't think we are out of space to mention it in one line and I believe i686 is considered as something we ought to support, I want to correct the expectations
18:02:44
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusYour call in all cases I made my point :P18:03:29
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricOK.. for my curiosity, where can i learn more about this community? Is it the people working on uxntal, collapse os, and things like that?18:03:39
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI think it's much more spread than that, I am not in those circles to be honest and don't want to mischaracterize, I met some of them on Mastodon complaining about NixOS and 32 bits support18:04:30
@asymmetric:matrix.dapp.org.ukasymmetricOK, I think I'm happy to add a mention to i686 also as a signifier of a broader move away from 32bits arches.. is that correct?18:06:00
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusSometimes it's really just random end users with their own way of seeing things18:06:02
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
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OK, I think I'm happy to add a mention to i686 also as a signifier of a broader move away from 32bits arches.. is that correct?
Strict people would say this may be invalid to talk about tier5/6/7 platforms of Nixpkgs like mips32 :p
18:06:58
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusI'd really just say 32 bits x8618:07:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
Sometimes it's really just random end users with their own way of seeing things
Also I wonder if undeveloped countries have "average" access to 64 bits machine
18:07:38
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusBut well, we kind of already suck for those countries because of how Nix works18:07:56
@infinisil:matrix.orginfinisil I will skip at least tomorrows docs team meetings (but maybe also some following ones) in order to focus on implementing RFC 140. 21:57:07
24 Aug 2023
@brian:bmcgee.ie@brian:bmcgee.ieI have to miss today's meeting aswell, gotta pay the bills08:07:26
@mightyiam:matrix.org@mightyiam:matrix.orgSorry for not being there this time.14:06:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius ryantm: I just realized that https://ryantm.github.io/nixpkgs was quite high in search results on Google but outdated 22:34:17
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusCould we do something about this?22:34:21
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariuse.g. a robots.txt to reduce its position wrt to SEO22:34:30
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(we have users citing it in nixpkgs PRs)22:35:11
@proofconstruction:matrix.orgproofconstructionThat makes sense - it's the nixpkgs manual I use when I go looking for something. The mdbook style is so much better than a 50km long page22:49:16
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusIndeed, the problem is that it's not fresh/outdated22:51:36

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