| 1 Aug 2022 |
 pennae | putting the best synthesis in one place sounds good | 13:16:26 |
| 2 Aug 2022 |
 jurraca | probably worth reusing, it's nice and concise
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 fufexan | not sure if this is the proper place to ask, but would it make sense to list the recent Nix 2.10 portability upgrade in the How Nix works page, under Portability? | 14:33:14 |
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| pennae | it is somewhat annoying that markdown is not a hierarchical format. we'll have to somehow forbid eg headings in option docs or the renderers might just produce garbage :/ | 20:40:14 |
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| 4 Aug 2022 |
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| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | hi! I found this comment in the nixos installer to be disturbing: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix#L188
This commands requires flakes to be enabled :/ | 07:48:19 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | I've also seen users trying to use this command to find packages names of the software they wanted in their first NixOS install | 07:49:19 |
 fricklerhandwerk | Solène (she/her): what would you propose? some obvious options:
- instead direct people to search.nixos.org
- add the experimental flag
| 07:54:51 |
 Linux Hackerman | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
hi! I found this comment in the nixos installer to be disturbing: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix#L188
This commands requires flakes to be enabled :/ not only that but it doesn't actually work :| | 07:55:22 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | using search.nixos.org may be the good way | 07:55:38 |
| Linux Hackerman | or the classic nix-env -qaP | 07:55:52 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | what's sure is the current example is not good 😅 nix-env -qaP is extremely slow and requires a lot of memory, I don't think it's a good idea | 08:04:16 |
| fricklerhandwerk | Solène (she/her) Linux Hackerman What about this:
- make a NixOS Wiki page on searching packages, show all the possibilities, explain the trade-offs
- choose a recommended way of doing things, note reasons
- prepare an issue on github.com/NixOS/nix.dev for the documentation
- roll out the recommendation at the relevant points of interaction, e.g. the
configuration.nix template, nix.dev, nixos.wiki
| 08:44:48 |
| fricklerhandwerk | * Solène (she/her) Linux Hackerman What about this:
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make a NixOS Wiki page on searching packages, show all the possibilities, explain the trade-offs
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choose a recommended way of doing things, note reasons
- prepare an issue on github.com/NixOS/nix.dev for the documentation team to shepherd the the discussion
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roll out the recommendation at the relevant points of interaction, e.g. the configuration.nix template, nix.dev, nixos.wiki
| 08:45:10 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | that seems good! | 08:46:26 |
| fricklerhandwerk | Solène (she/her): would you like to write a quick draft on the Wiki? | 08:54:01 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | sure | 08:54:14 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | this is a start for the wiki https://nixos.wiki/wiki/Searching_packages | 09:25:58 |
 hexa | I wonder whether an example for a network configuration using networkd would be appreciated in the sample configuration.nix | 10:49:59 |
| hexa | to move the sorry state that of people using the scripted networking bits | 10:50:56 |
| hexa | * to move the sorry state. that alot of people us the scripted networking bits, along | 10:51:11 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | actually using the nix repl isn't that bad, any other idea for a way to search a package?
In the wiki I'd prefer to avoid the "nix search" experimental command that has to be run near a flake.nix file | 12:31:37 |
 a-kenji | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
actually using the nix repl isn't that bad, any other idea for a way to search a package?
In the wiki I'd prefer to avoid the "nix search" experimental command that has to be run near a flake.nix file You don't need to run it near a flake.nix file, or? | 12:32:29 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | > nix search
path '/home/solene' does not contain a 'flake.nix', searching up
error: could not find a flake.nix file
| 12:32:51 |
 Minion3665 | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
actually using the nix repl isn't that bad, any other idea for a way to search a package?
In the wiki I'd prefer to avoid the "nix search" experimental command that has to be run near a flake.nix file Nix search doesn't need a flake.nix file
You can run nix search nixpkgs packagename and it'll search in the nixpkgs flake | 12:32:52 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | that's pretty cool, nix --extra-experimental-features "nix-command flakes" search nixpkgs firefox | 12:33:57 |
| Minion3665 | In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
that's pretty cool, nix --extra-experimental-features "nix-command flakes" search nixpkgs firefox Yep
That'll work :) | 12:34:32 |
| Solène Rapenne (she/her) | it's just too bad it needs to download 30MB every so often :D | 12:34:51 |
