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29 Jul 2022
@starf0x7:matrix.orgjurraca joined the room.15:52:12
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennae should we introduce a couple more inline roles for option docs constructs that don't have exact equivalents in markdown yet? <package> and <code> are the most common tags that we can currently only translate as normal code blocks (which turn into <literal>), but distinguishing those three things seems not entirely useful 19:14:23
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan TojnarI do not think there is much distinction between literal and code20:14:48
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnaror rather, the markdown backticks semantically represent inline code, if anything20:15:31
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarand we have already started mushing literals into it20:15:52
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan Tojnarpackage, maybe20:16:25
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaeit's not too late to undo all the markdown migrations and add a role for literals if that would be useful20:17:55
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaewe now have the tooling to do this automatically, it wouldn't hurt a whole lot20:18:43
@jtojnar:matrix.orgJan TojnarI was thinking the other manuals as well22:14:49
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaethat...would be a lot more effort. :/22:38:50
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennae most of the remaining uncoverted docs after https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/pull/183491 are held back by either links that don't round-trip, admonitions, or manpage references. <package> turns up only 46 times while there's hundreds of the roles we've already defined 22:42:40
30 Jul 2022
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31 Jul 2022
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1 Aug 2022
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@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerkJust found that NixOS manual for some reason has a Nix language syntax summary: https://nixos.org/manual/nixos/stable/index.html#sec-nix-syntax-summary That should, if at all, be in the Nix manual. Any objection to just removing it?11:15:23
@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaeputting the best synthesis in one place sounds good13:16:26
2 Aug 2022
@starf0x7:matrix.orgjurracaprobably worth reusing, it's nice and concise 14:01:11
@fufexan:matrix.orgfufexan not sure if this is the proper place to ask, but would it make sense to list the recent Nix 2.10 portability upgrade in the How Nix works page, under Portability? 14:33:14
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@pennae:matrix.eno.spacepennaeit is somewhat annoying that markdown is not a hierarchical format. we'll have to somehow forbid eg headings in option docs or the renderers might just produce garbage :/20:40:14
3 Aug 2022
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4 Aug 2022
@rapenne-s:tchncs.deSolène Rapenne (she/her) joined the room.07:47:29
@rapenne-s:tchncs.deSolène Rapenne (she/her) hi! I found this comment in the nixos installer to be disturbing: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix#L188 This commands requires flakes to be enabled :/ 07:48:19
@rapenne-s:tchncs.deSolène Rapenne (she/her)I've also seen users trying to use this command to find packages names of the software they wanted in their first NixOS install07:49:19
@fricklerhandwerk:matrix.orgfricklerhandwerk

Solène (she/her): what would you propose? some obvious options:

  • instead direct people to search.nixos.org
  • add the experimental flag
07:54:51
@linus:schreibt.jetztLinux Hackerman
In reply to @rapenne-s:tchncs.de
hi! I found this comment in the nixos installer to be disturbing: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/blob/master/nixos/modules/installer/tools/tools.nix#L188 This commands requires flakes to be enabled :/
not only that but it doesn't actually work :|
07:55:22
@rapenne-s:tchncs.deSolène Rapenne (she/her)using search.nixos.org may be the good way07:55:38
@linus:schreibt.jetztLinux Hackerman or the classic nix-env -qaP 07:55:52

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