| 3 May 2023 |
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| 4 May 2023 |
 @zmitchell:matrix.org | Learning journey working group meets in 45 minutes | 12:16:08 |
 fricklerhandwerk | Thanks again everyone for joining. We were a bit scattered today due to availability, but thanks to everyone's input we made good progress on how to deal with how-to guides in the foreseeable future. | 15:04:45 |
 pennae | oh, right, meeting 😖 | 15:05:14 |
| fricklerhandwerk | We'll write down a few things that have to be done to get going with curating guides in a more structured fashion based on today's discussion. And then we will probably need lots of help to sift through what's out there and bringing that up to date. | 15:06:22 |
 j-k | sorry I was only there briefly, getting back into the swing of things after some distracted weeks of work | 15:34:34 |
 infinisil | Oh btw this is what I was thinking of regarding the prerequisites of a knowledge graph: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maximal_and_minimal_elements | 15:59:52 |
| infinisil | Only the maximal elements of the subgraph of everything that is a prerequisite should be listed | 16:01:02 |
| j-k | 
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| 5 May 2023 |
| infinisil | I don't think I'll be able to make Monday meetings anymore unfortunately, there's a conflict with another company meeting that tends to have precedence | 15:51:16 |
| 6 May 2023 |
|  @duanin2:duanin2.top left the room. | 19:10:52 |
| 8 May 2023 |
| infinisil | The other event was moved, so I'll be there today :) | 13:10:16 |
| infinisil | Though it was moved to the same time as the learning journey meeting on Thursday.. | 13:12:51 |
| infinisil | But I do think 3 hours of meetings per week is too many anyways. We don't seem to make enough progress every week to need so many | 13:13:02 |
| @zmitchell:matrix.org | Is there a meeting happening today at all? | 14:04:25 |
| infinisil | zmitchell: Yes now :) | 14:04:33 |
| pennae | couldn't make the meeting, but we did see that y'all are discussing getting rid of epub? | 15:34:51 |
| pennae | for some context: we can only drop docbook from any rendered docs as soon as all uses of docbook (including the epub rendering) has been either dropped or replaced | 15:36:38 |
| pennae | if we keep epub around for however long it takes to deprecate it we'll be saddled with docbook awfulness for at least another year | 15:37:04 |
| pennae | (assuming that nobody shows up and adds docbook export to nixos-render-docs, which at this point does not seem likely to happen) | 15:37:43 |
| fricklerhandwerk | pennae: what do you think about adding a big deprecation note to every page of the ePub output and wait for someone to complain? If no one uses it we may as well drop it. | 18:59:36 |
| pennae | no clue how to even do that | 19:00:15 |
| pennae | the entire epub rendering chain is some cursed docbook nonsense | 19:00:26 |
 henrik-ch | Sorry, also didn't make the meeting today - day off with family in the UK. See you all on Thursday. | 19:01:07 |
 asymmetric | i think we should drop docbook, and if someone is willing to add back support for it in nrd, they should do it. there will always be a handful of users who use a niche feature, but if that's not easy to support by the people actually doing the work (pennae in this case), then it should be dropped | 19:01:50 |
| asymmetric | * i think we should drop epub, and if someone is willing to add back support for it in nrd, they should do it. there will always be a handful of users who use a niche feature, but if that's not easy to support by the people actually doing the work (pennae in this case), then it should be dropped | 19:01:55 |
| pennae | a big deprecation notice will also mean that we'll have to keep docbook around for another six to twelve months :/ | 19:02:48 |
| pennae | mmdoc has an epub export, heavy inspiration could be taken from that | 19:03:51 |
