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 Eli Saado | I'm going to spin up a couple of NixOS VMs, and I'd really like to manage them in a gitops-y way, anyone got recommendations for handy tools? | 20:24:00 |
 Chris P Bacon | Not sure if this is a good fit for what you're looking for. But I fell in love with clan for managing multiple machines. | 20:27:38 |
| Eli Saado | peer to peer?! woah | 20:28:56 |
| Eli Saado | it looks cool | 20:29:11 |
| Eli Saado | it looks like an Ansible with nix instead of yaml, am I getting that correct? | 20:31:34 |
| Chris P Bacon | I don't think that's correct. I think it would be more fair to compare nix to ansible, but even that would be unfair to both in my opinion.
What are you looking to achieve exactly? Perhaps that tells me whether clan is a good fit or not
| 20:34:19 |
| Eli Saado | Fair enough
currently I'm running a ton of my infrastructure on Kubernetes with gitops using fluxcd, it's amazing because the state in git is the state of my cluster
the problem I have is that some applications are not fun to run in Kubernetes, like TURN servers, so I have those in separate VMs which are not tracked by git so I have a notebook with the "state" but nothing guarantees that there will be no state drift
I'm looking for a way to move part of my infrastructure that's currently in and outside of Kubernetes to VMs that I manage declaratively. I already run NixOS as my daily driver so it was a no brainer to use it for this kinda thing on the VMs, but I still need a good way to make sure that whatever is in git also represents the state of my machines
ideally all machines also use the same build server so that I don't store the same nix build cache on $n VMs :P
| 20:39:05 |
| Eli Saado | 
Download as an example, renovate opens pull requests on my Kubernetes repository with commits like this to update certain containers, and I can merge them from my phone and the container updates in real time | 20:43:05 |
| Chris P Bacon | Ok, yep, I think that you would like clan in this case.
I myself am(/was, long hiatus..) building a self hosted cloud with clan with k3s and crossplane. https://git.amarth.cloud/amarth/infra
Also in the middle of migrating my personal machines to clan.
| 20:45:30 |
| Eli Saado | cool | 20:46:29 |
| Eli Saado | how high/low level is it? I've built a small NixOS POC with colemena where I can deploy a k3s cluster to multiple machines at once, but you're basically writing a normal NixOS system configuration yourself and you also manage the bootstrapping and secret management of nodes yourself | 20:47:29 |
| Chris P Bacon | The deploying to multiple machines is what a clan service is for, this is what I was builing with my "cloud machines" I have 4 machines, 1 control node and 3 compute nodes. I made a clan serive which wraps k3s config with two roles in that service. Then I have a single instance of that service in which I assign the machines to that instance's roles. You can see all this in https://git.amarth.cloud/amarth/infra/clan.nix
If this sounds nice than I suggest you read through the getting started of the clan docs and join clan's matrix room. Plenty of smart helpful people there 😁
| 20:53:54 |
| Eli Saado | I'll check out your repo, thanks :) | 20:56:42 |
| Eli Saado | it sounds amazing | 20:56:45 |
| Chris P Bacon | * The deploying to multiple machines is what a clan service is for, this is what I was builing with my "cloud machines" I have 4 machines, 1 control node and 3 compute nodes. I made a clan serive which wraps k3s config with two roles in that service. Then I have a single instance of that service in which I assign the machines to that instance's roles. You can see all this in https://git.amarth.cloud/amarth/infra/src/branch/main/clan.nix
If this sounds nice than I suggest you read through the getting started of the clan docs and join clan's matrix room. Plenty of smart helpful people there 😁
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