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8 Mar 2024
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
what if I send SAML support to Gitea tomorrow?
* looks for a simpler feature and do it 😄
00:15:44
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00:16:03
@hexa:lossy.networkhexathat sounds equally silly and simple00:16:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/pull/29403 I have a better answer 16:46:49
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius Yes and it's the one used in Gitea Enterprise 16:46:57
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

Yes, CommitGo is using this PR.

16:50:12
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalol16:50:13
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaat least they're using their enterprise customers as guinea pigs ig16:50:36
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephens So maybe they will accept them? Though if they have the patches privately it feels wrong that others may have to recreate the functionality. (Seems not to be this case) 17:08:21
@hexa:lossy.networkhexaanyway, who cares about SAML? Nobody.17:11:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi want to roast you but i will prevent myself17:11:28
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyes not everyone does not do authentication over an authorization RFC17:11:38
@hexa:lossy.networkhexauniversities do17:11:41
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi much prefer saml to oauth217:12:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius * i much prefer saml to oauth2/oidc17:12:06
@hexa:lossy.networkhexalol what17:12:14
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://joonas.fi/2021/08/saml-is-insecure-by-design/17:12:24
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/dexidp/dex/security/advisories/GHSA-m9hp-7r99-94h517:13:08
@hexa:lossy.networkhexahttps://github.com/russellhaering/goxmldsig/security/advisories/GHSA-q547-gmf8-8jr717:13:22
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa

We should always guide people to use oauth2/oidc first, and then LDAP app passwords second, with SAML as an absolute last resort. If we end up in that situation, we may need to add it.

https://github.com/kanidm/kanidm/issues/2025#issue-1866005716

17:20:09
@hexa:lossy.networkhexadon't trust me, trust firstyear 😄 17:20:14
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusi don't really do this sort of things, sorry17:59:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius
In reply to @hexa:lossy.network
https://joonas.fi/2021/08/saml-is-insecure-by-design/
the link you mentioned conclude to the same thing though
18:00:05
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusoauth2 is not an alternative18:00:08
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusso sure, i can just not use saml and use something that has not been built for authentication18:00:24
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbut yes I am very much well aware of all the XML malleability issues... :^).18:00:57
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthat doesn't change the fact there's no alternative to SAML and there's a sensible path to SAML implementation18:01:12
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusso maybe firstyear will expand his section on why SAML is bad and I hope it's not because people in the enterprise ecosystem doesn't know how to do canonical document formats18:02:01
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusbecause, if that's the argument, I hope people applies it to their own software.18:02:25
9 Mar 2024
@hexa:lossy.networkhexa
In reply to @raitobezarius:matrix.org
oauth2 is not an alternative
right, saml is a concept that separate identity and service providers quite neatly, but why would you rule out oauth2?
01:35:25

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