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6 May 2024
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius(for snapshots)17:15:21
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztthis one? https://github.com/lheckemann/prune-rs17:17:15
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusyes17:18:34
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthis is bcachefs official pruning tool17:18:54
@k900:0upti.meK900I don't actually intend to keep any snapshots on the box being backed up17:18:58
@k900:0upti.meK900I just need snapshots to get an atomic view of rocksdb17:19:16
@k900:0upti.meK900So my backup plan was snapshot, borg, yeet snapshot17:19:36
@k900:0upti.meK900 * So my backup plan was snapshot, borg snapshot, yeet snapshot17:19:45
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezariusthen bcachefs subvolume snapshot just work17:19:54
@k900:0upti.meK900Or maybe I should look into restic17:20:04
@k900:0upti.meK900But that just changes the setup to snapshot, restic snapshot, yeet snapshot17:20:33
@k900:0upti.meK900Oh no17:23:10
@k900:0upti.meK900Hades 2 is out17:23:14
@k900:0upti.meK900I guess I'll have to revisit the backups situation in a month17:23:25
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerricco
In reply to @linus:schreibt.jetzt
this one? https://github.com/lheckemann/prune-rs
I made something like this a long time ago except I had this weird obsession with making it a logarithmic thing instead of a date based thing. The idea is that you get the same benefits of exponential decay, but the regularity of the snapshot creation doesn't meaningfully impact anything: https://github.com/ElvishJerricco/zlogshot
17:31:54
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoi.e. you can create a big burst of snapshots one day and it won't make a big difference in your backup history. You can also leave your computer off for like a year and you won't find it pruning a year's worth of stuff when it comes back up17:32:32
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetztyeah I saw that and thought "totally cool, I should use it" and then when the time came to use it I couldn't find it anymore :D17:32:35
@raitobezarius:matrix.orgraitobezarius:D17:32:48
@nick_kadutskyi:matrix.org@nick_kadutskyi:matrix.org changed their display name from nick_kadutskyi to nickkadutskyi.17:33:24
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoit's probably not a good idea, since a lot of people care very much about the predictability of the dates of their backups :P17:33:29
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoI spent... way too much time making the charts in that repo to prove to myself that it made sense :P17:34:48
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@gsaurel:laas.frnim65sI totally understand this obsession. I can't look at a moving average to low pass something and not throw refs about exponential moving average around 😅19:40:25
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@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephens
In reply to @elvishjerricco:matrix.org
I made something like this a long time ago except I had this weird obsession with making it a logarithmic thing instead of a date based thing. The idea is that you get the same benefits of exponential decay, but the regularity of the snapshot creation doesn't meaningfully impact anything: https://github.com/ElvishJerricco/zlogshot
are you still using it?
20:00:09
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccooh I never used it lol20:00:31
@elvishjerricco:matrix.orgElvishJerriccoI made it as a curiosity and was too afraid to trust it with anything :P20:00:53
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephenshahaha20:01:19
@linus:schreibt.jetzt@linus:schreibt.jetzt
In reply to @adam:robins.wtf
are you still using it?
I still use my thing :D
20:40:17
@adam:robins.wtfadamcstephenslooks neat20:43:21

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